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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:30 pm 
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Kamnet's Stats Shack is my own little corner for compiling information of vehicles that I'd like to see coded into OpenTTD.

All information presented here is freely available, released into Public Domain license, for anybody to use for their projects. Statistics and specifications for real-life vehicles will try to closely mirror those real-life stats as much as possible, within reason to OpenTTD. I require no credit, but will accept it anyhow. :-)

To accompany my stats, I am encouraging artists to submit their own original artwork. These can be in original 8bbp 1x/2x/4x zoom or 32bpp full zoom. Feel free to pick and choose the models that you want to draw, not all of them need to be made in order to build a set.

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  • Seaplane Transport - featuring 175+ (and growing) seaplanes - flying boats and floatships - to use with the new seaplane port in OpenGFX+ Airports. Largely US, Canada, UK and Germany at the moment, but will update regularly. Spreadsheet is sortable by name, intro and end production dates, lifetimes, country of origin, and passenger or cargo sizes.
  • Ground Effect Vehicles - featuring over 50 real and a few imagined ekranoplans, from the Cold War to just produced. Ekranoplans are ships that fly over water (and sometimes land as well) and can carry massive amounts of cargo or passengers. In OpenTTD, ships cannot currently travel faster than 127 km/h, but never mind that, enjoy the variety of new ships to try out! This list will be expanded to include other types of ground effect vehicles at a future date.
  • VTOL Aircraft, Airships & Helicopters - featuring over 150 experimental, prototypical futuristic real-world aircraft. These include VTOL proprotors, autogyros, compound helicopters, airships, and conventional helicopters.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:17 pm 
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Good luck with that; better start drawing ;)

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 Post subject: Seaplane Transport
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Seaplane Transport
View spreadsheet here: http://kam-net.com/ottd/statshack/seaplane-transport/

Seaplane Transport is a list of seaplanes, largely real but a few drawings and prototypes that didn't make it far. For the sake of OpenTTD play most of the planes documented must be capable of transporting at least four passengers and/or at least 0.5 metric tons of cargo. I've taken some liberties here with rounding up cargo or passenger capacity, or rounded up or down other stats just to make it simple. After all, this is a game.

Seaplanes are typically classified into two types:

Flying Boats, which have ship-like hulls that are used for landing and buoyancy, with flotation sponsons or other devices on the wing tips to keep the plane balanced in water. Using any available space of water as a runway was a huge advantage over land-based airplanes, as it required very little infrastructure to be built and maintained. Because of this, however, most of the flying boats from 1910 through 1940 were restricted to water. As technology and needs progressed, however, that has largely changed, and today nearly all flying boats are classified as amphibious.

Flying boats came into development only a few years after the airplane was invented, and quickly developed into a preferred vehicle for use by military. Originally built for reconnaissance, they were quickly adapted into bombers and fighters, and were the first ship-based planes to be used in warfare. During the World War I all nations impressed their aircraft builders to crank out new designs and improvements and build thousands of units for war.

After World War I, small-capacity surplus flying boats became the first bush planes. Globetrotting explorers used them in their expeditions, and the vehicles got plenty of press coverage. They were also utilized early in trans-Atlantic mail service. Passenger cruise lines used small capacity flying planes to transfer mail from ship to shore, ahead of the ships, improving speed of delivery by up to 20%. The commercial airline business also saw them as useful, and many of what would become the major world airlines were originally formed around flying boats. While flying boats couldn't surpass sailing boats in capacity, they could surpass them in speed, and would set world records in transporting passengers across the Atlantic, and eventually the Pacific. These planes became larger and heavier over the next three decades, culminating in behemoths such as the Dornier Do X, the BV 222 Wiking, and the SARO Princess, all represented in the set. They were also sought after by the wealthy and elite, many converted with amenities such as sleeping compartments and on-board kitchens.

After World War II, however, the golden era of the float plane drew to a close. Global investments in building land-based airports, especially during and after the war, drastically dropped the cost of airplanes and airport infrastructure. Excess surplus wartime planes (many sold for just a few hundred dollars) were converted for secondary passenger and cargo use. Flying boats were much more expensive, by comparison, and their technology had become outdated. A few attempts to modernize them with jet turbine engines found them even more expensive and less reliable. In the dawn of the Space Age, flying boats were as antiquated as sail boats. In light of this, flying boats became more specialized. Many of the large cargo vessels were adapted and morphed into specialty aid vehicles, such as search-and-rescue response, mobile hospitals and firefighting air tankers / water bombers. More recently they've seen their renaissance as bush planes, aerosports planes, and personal transportation.

Floatplanes, which today are largely the same models as traditional aircraft, with flotation pontoons replacing wheels as the landing gear. These originally were purpose-built vehicles for military reconnaissance and fighters. Aircraft manufacturers, however, found it more cost-effective to design planes which could be adapted for use on dry land, frozen tundra and snow, as well as water, and within a decade of the invention of the airplane many popular models came as a floatplane option. Further, many more would become amphibious thanks to Earl Dodge Osborn, who in 1925 began marketing EDO floats, which performed as both flotation pontoons and landing wheels. Most major manufacturers offered EDO floats as an option at the factory. For those that were not adapted as amphibious, EDO often built popular after-market conversions.

Floatplanes, for the most part, are smaller in both physical size and capacity compared to flying boats of the early- and mid-20th century. This made them much more affordable and economical to use as personal transport, commuter and ferry services, and feeder cargo delivery. From bush planes, to tourism, scouting and exploration, as well as training new pilots how to fly, amphibious floatplanes have always been a popular option for anybody who wanted or needed to get from land to water and back quickly and affordably. Vehicles are typically quite durable, and even with abuse are able to be well maintained for decades of use. Today floatplanes are typically split between bush planes, short-route cargo transport, commuter and tourist transport, and aerosports.

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 Post subject: Ground Effect Vehicles
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:27 am 
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Ground Effect Vehicles
View spreadsheet here: http://kam-net.com/ottd/statshack/groun ... -vehicles/

Ground Effect Vehicles is a list of land- and sea-based transport of passengers and cargo using the phenomenon of ground effect. Vehicles utilize this effect between their wings and the ground to create a cushion of air to ride along. This list, so far, is mostly exclusive to the ekranoplan, but will eventually expand to cover other types of GEVs. Cargo capacities, speeds and other statistics are fairly close to their real-life equivalents.

Ekranoplans and most other GEVs are technically classified as sea vessels, although some are able to obtain true flight by applying enough power. So far, in OpenTTD only one ekranoplan set has been coded, and it was coded as ships. The downside is that currently ships are restricted to 127 km/h in speed, and reality ekranoplans and other GEVs are capable of operating between 150 km/h and 300 km/h, with records set above 600 km/h.

Ekranoplans are based on the work of [url]Rostislav Alexeyev[/url], who had already established himself in ground-breaking work developing hydrofoil ships, applied his keen knowledge of ground effect on giant ships. When Nikita Kruchev took power, he took keen interest in Alexeyev's work and classified it as a state secret. The Ekranoplan, translated directly from Russian as "screen effect" or "ground effect", for years was referred to in code as the "steamboat project", was sold on the hopes that this new secret would give him the advantage in the Cold War against the United States, carrying massive troops and heavy weapons, including nuclear arms, right up to the enemy's door.

Starting with small projects in the 1960s, Alexeyev scaled projects larger and larger, culminating in the KM, or more plainly translated as "Korabl Maket" or "Navy Prototype". It was largely successful, and it lead to more projects. Unfortunately they were very expensive, and when regime change came in the late 1970s, Alexeyev found himself removed from development. New leadership determined the ekranoplan was "idealistic" and "wishful", and the future of Soviet power laid in traditional displays of power - larger armies, big rockets, planes and tanks. While the projects were quietly shelved, they didn't escape the notice of American spies. Spy satellites picked up the shape of the vehicle as it was sitting in dry dock, and after analyzing it initially dismissed it as a poorly thought-out airplane, but would eventually discover its true nature. It's sheer size caused it to be dubbed the "Caspian Sea Monster".

Several more projects were completed before the breakup of the Soviet Union in the 1990s. After which, the technology started to be disseminated throughout the former Soviet republics and China in the 1990s, and then the rest of the world after 2000. Many companies have tried and fallen bankrupt attempting to take market the technology for mass passenger and cargo transportation, smaller companies have taken advantage of it by promoting the vehicles as personal transportation and sports craft.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:09 am 
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Good job in collecting all this information!
I hope that this and the implimentation of a seaplane port into OpenGFX+airports will inspire artists to draw these lovely seaplanes!

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 Post subject: Re: Seaplane Transport
PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:18 am 
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Near complete-records of useful Canadian, German and French seaplanes has now been updated, bringing the database to 175 vehicles.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:32 pm 
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This sounds like something I'd attempt, however I can't really draw sprites and have no time to practice what with education and that
I'll have to pass for now, but I'd love to see the GEV and Seaplane finished graphics :P

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 Post subject: VTOL Aircraft
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:03 am 
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VTOL Aircraft
View spreadsheet here: http://kam-net.com/ottd/statshack/vtol/

VTOL Aircraft is a listing of aircraft capable of vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) maneuverability. While many of the aircraft are also capable of conventional airplane-like landings, ideally these should be coded as helicopters to feature their VTOL abilities. They look way more cool that way! Most of these vehicles started as military or government-sponsored projects, and most of them never go very far. Civilian VTOL vehicles have mostly been experimental until the last decade, and most of them were only designed as test experiments rather than prototypes capable of transporting large numbers of passengers or cargo. The vehicles listed here are suitable for passenger and cargo transport in OpenTTD. I've mostly listed vehicles where most of their stats were known, or at the very least theoretically possible. There are easily a dozen or so undocumented and futuristic designs out there, but without any kind of stats to go by, I left them out. I may re-explore those in the future.

There are typically two classes of VTOL aircraft:

*Compound helicopters, also known as gyrocopters, gyroplanes, autogyroes and other names, feature one or more propeller blades for vertical lift, then employ rotors or jets mounted horizontally to maneuver forward. They typically resemble helicopters.

*Proportors use two or more rotors or vertical thrusted jets attached to a fixed wing for vertical lift, then employ a tilt wing, tilt rotor, or thrusted jets to maneuver forward. They typically resemble airplanes. Famous examples would be the V-22 Osprey or Harrier Jump Jet.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:33 pm 
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arrgh matey , seaplanes link is outdated

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:12 am 
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Not outdated, just an issue with my webserver that I'll fix after the holidays. You can jump directly to my spreadsheet here in the meantime.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... LA/pubhtml

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:04 am 
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introduction and retirement dates for Fairey III are wrong

also a Fairley is a type of locomotive (The L shouldn't be there)

and there are multiple variants so which one are you talking about?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:02 am 
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introduction and retirement dates for Fairey III are wrong
also a Fairley is a type of locomotive (The L shouldn't be there)
and there are multiple variants so which one are you talking about?


Thank you for the spelling correction. My dates of use are for civilian, not military (even for planes that were largely known for their military usage). The Wikipedia article notes that the first civilian sales started in 1919. The IIIC started production in 1920, but many of the IIIB, produced in 1919 were finished and/or refitted to IIIC standards. And it is the IIIC that was modified to carry five passengers instead of a pilot, navigator and gunner. Still, there is very little difference between all of the variants as far as usefulness in OpenTTD, so I don't see a reason to specify if it's a IIIC or a IIIF (the most mass-produced version). The main differences are the engine sizes and seating arrangements, which OpenTTD planes care nothing about. The retirement date isn't very far off. The last date of production that I could see for any of the Fairey IIIs was 1929. To be useful in OpenTTD I set a minimum lifetime age of 10 years, and I try to keep them in multiples of 5 for simplicity's sake. So for this plane you cannot purchase or renew it past 1929, and when it ends its life in 1939, that's only a few years off from when the last military services retired the last remaining Fairey IIIs from service. I couldn't find any civilian services which were still operating these planes in 1939.

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Gosport Fire Fighter has a range of 400

EDIT : Gosport Fire Fighter was never built , it was just a proposed design.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:33 pm 
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Awesometrains wrote:
Gosport Fire Fighter has a range of 400

May I inquire as to the source of this information?

Awesometrains wrote:
Gosport Fire Fighter was never built , it was just a proposed design.

Yes, any model marked in magenta are only proposed designs, and are included because they're unique or interesting enough to include. In this instance, it was included because it could theoretically haul more tons of cargo than the other two planes available for civilian purchase in 1919, and a plane of similar capability, the Dornier Do 16 Wal, wouldn't be available for four more years.

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VTOL Aircraft, Airships & Helicopters
View spreadsheet here: http://kam-net.com/ottd/statshack/vtol/

AS FEATURED IN: Oftcrash's VACE aircraft set.

VTOL Aircraft, Airships & Helicopters are a listing of aircraft meant to be encoded as NewGRF helicopters. This set originally started as for purely experimental and theoretical VTOL vehicles, but has now expanded for historical and current conventional aircraft. VTOL stands for Vertical Take-Off and Landing, and includes the following categories:

VTOL Proprotors: Proprotor aircraft use two or more rotors or thrusted jets attached to a fixed wing for vertical lift, then employ a tilt wing, tilt rotor, or thrusted jets to maneuver forward. Almost all of these are geared as military experiments, with very few making it to a prototype. Only one aircraft, the Bell V-22 Osprey, has developed into a production model for military transport. A civilian model, the Leonardo (formerly AugustaWestland, formerly Bell/Augusta) AW609, will enter the market in the next few years.

Autogyros: Also known as gyrocopters, gyroplanes or rotorplanes, autogyros use a propellor blade for vertical lift, then use proprotors or jets on a fixed wing to maneuver forward using either wings or the unpowered autorotational propellor for in-flight lift. Most of these are experimental or futuristic in nature, with few real-world models in use. The most famous of these is the Fairey Rotodyne, which was successfully prototyped for five years but eventually dismantled.

Compound Helicopters: Also known as gyrodynes, compound helicopters feature one or more propeller blades for vertical lift, then employ rotors or jets mounted horizontally to maneuver forward. Mostly experimental, the upcoming Airbus Eurocopter X3 demonstrator will be one of the first to see full production.

Airships: Airships use a lighter-than-air gas for lift and then use rotors or jets in to maneuver forward. Airships come in rigid, semi-rigid, non-rigid
(blimps), hybrid aerostats (powered balloons), dynastat and rotastat variants. Early models mostly focused on transporting passengers and mail with some cargo. World War I and World War II era models were largely used as bombers. These formed the first passenger airlines, and were a wildly popular way for the wealthy and well-to-do to travel, with very good safety records compared to both ships and airplanes. However, after the infamous mid-air explosion of the Zeppelin LZ-129 Hindenburg, witnessed by thousands, airships quickly fell out of favor and never recovered as a form of transportation. They still remain viable options for military patrol and surveillance as well as scientific studies, as well as being popular for use in advertising and aerial photography and videography. Future project are attempting to re-establish airships as a means of inexpensive heavy lift transportation for non-time sensitive bulk cargo, and as a revival of slower leisurely cruise and sightseeing opportunities for the wealthy.

Helicopters: These are broken up into Civilian and Light/Medium Transport and Military and Heavy Lift Transport. Nearly all of these are helicopters that can move either lots of passengers or lots of cargo. Nearly all of them started out as military transports that were then exported for civilian use, with many prototypes successfully making it into the market. As technology improves these helicopters continue to get bigger and faster, although current trends are to use the space for limited capacity VIP transportation.

Eyecandy / Personal Transport: These are largely fictional designs for vehicles that don't yet exist. The most famous is the Moeller M200 SkyCar, which has a prototype that saw limited testing. These likely will never be coded unless Supercheese gets bored. ;)

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