The 2cc Bus Set

[Voyager One]

This thing will own all Intercity Bus Routes on the game I think, unless of course you've given it a couple of drawbacks

I think it should be/will be pretty costly to run. All (realistic) stats are in that tracking table, tweaking some will certainly be necessary.

Also, Congratulations on passing the 10,000 post mark, you join that elite club

I did? I didn't even notice... Thanks mate!

[Creideiki]

Yep! There is one more double articulated bus on the list, the Van Hool ExquiCity 24.

Ooh, cool bus, although that paint scheme could do with a little bit less pink.

I've always wondered what riding a double articulated bus would be like. Probably a lot like with the "normal" articulated buses like the DE60LFRs I mentioned earlier.


The Neoplan Jumbocruiser is, to put it mildly, slightly insane; I like it, but it is insane. I wonder if some company will ever increase the insanity by doing a doubly-articulated double-decker bus.

[Voyager One]

Ooh, cool bus, although that paint scheme could do with a little bit less pink.

I think it's one operator's livery, maybe even simply showroom livery. No worries - you can change that in OTTD in whatever color you like...

The Neoplan Jumbocruiser is, to put it mildly, slightly insane

It really is and that's exactly why it's a must-be-included. Anyway, we'll try to balance it against others with severely high costs. If we'll use a formula of some sort, HIGH capacity + HIGH speed + HIGH power + HIGH whatever else it's got will certainly equal VERY HIGH costs.

[Voyager One]

Finally some time to draw...

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[Voyager One]

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[Eddy Arfik]

I'd like to see the Ikarus 55/66 in here, it is a masterpiece of 1950's styling and quite possibly the best looking bus ever built. It could be either an urban bus (66) or intercity coach (55) depending on where it best fits in the set.

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Links with stats:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_55
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_66

[Voyager One]

Nice one, definitely a weird looking one. Unfortunately it doesn't fit in either intercity or suburban niches in the tracking table. The suburban part has the Škoda 706RTO which is almost identical in stats while the intercity "sector" has the ZiS127, also almost identical in stats.

HOWEVER, since it's soooooo strange in looks, consider it in. Ikarus 55 added to IC list.

[Creideiki]

{The Ikarus 55/66}

That bus is so... 1950s. I love it.

I'm too lazy to apply the Google (or Wikipedia), but what country is the Ikarus company from?

Nice one, definitely a weird looking one. Unfortunately it doesn't fit in either intercity or suburban niches in the tracking table. The suburban part has the Škoda 706RTO which is almost identical in stats while the intercity "sector" has the ZiS127, also almost identical in stats.

HOWEVER, since it's soooooo strange in looks, consider it in. Ikarus 55 added to IC list.

Yes! I support this whole heartedly! I mean I just learnt of that bus, but it looks so neat.

By any chance did you see my post of bus ideas/suggestions? It got a bit swallowed up in moderation limbo for a while (because I'm still new), but it was right after that Cuban semi-trailer bus (also a rather neat bus).

[Voyager One]

what country is the Ikarus company from?

The Ikarus itself is from Hungary but their products are (were) present troughout the eastern bloc.

By any chance did you see my post of bus ideas/suggestions?

Oooops. I did now! Sorry mate, I've somehow missed them. I'll take a proper look and let you know, but from the first glance, something will certainly get in.

EDIT: 3 more.

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[Creideiki]

The Ikarus itself is from Hungary but their products are (were) present troughout the eastern bloc.

Ah, cool. I was thinking it was Eastern bloc. Are they still in existence?

Oooops. I did now! Sorry mate, I've somehow missed them. I'll take a proper look and let you know, but from the first glance, something will certainly get in.

Eh, it's fine. Like I said I'm pretty new to the forum, so my post got stuck in moderation.

[Eddy Arfik]

Ah, cool. I was thinking it was Eastern bloc. Are they still in existence?

Yes, given their unique looks and the fact they were in regular service until the early 1990's quite a few have survived, some are still in semi-regular use today in a charter/tourist bus role

[Creideiki]

Yes, given their unique looks and the fact they were in regular service until the early 1990's quite a few have survived, some are still in semi-regular use today in a charter/tourist bus role

I was actually referring more to the company than those specific buses.

But it is neat to hear their are still a bunch of them being used. The only historic buses we have here are some trolley bus imitations (built in 2008(?) on a normal new bus frame); we also kept some of our TA60-102N articulated buses until we got delivery of the NFI DE60LFRs, and even then we kept two of them for some reason or another. We eventually sold the last one to a museum in the 'States.

I know the last thing that our "historic" TA60-102N buses were used for was the annual McMaster University Engineering Department Bus Pull. Which is basically a bunch of students at my university's engineering department going and pulling a bus a short distance for charity.

[Voyager One]

Ah, cool. I was thinking it was Eastern bloc. Are they still in existence?

Yes, Ikarus is still making buses.

Two doubledeckers from yesterday...

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[Voyager One]

For lunch... old and new London.

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[te_lanus]

would have loved to request two busses that was available here. But beyond two pics I can't find any info on them. Did send the creator of the site a request, but no luck so far


This is a Clydesdale bus from 1924


This one I don't even have a name for but it's from 1929

EDIT: Seems the Second Bus was used By Golden Arrow Bus company. e-mailed them, hopefully they can supply more info (and a few more pics, but not holding my breath for the pics)

[Voyager One]

@te_lanus - I'll take a look at these too, they seem somehow familiar, like I've already seen them somewhere, or at least something very similar to these. Thanks!

EDIT: @Creideiki - I've added two of your suggestions to the list.
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... and enough for today...

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[Xaxa]

Oh goodness! I love this bus set! I look forward to playing with it in the future.

There are so many buses I like though... but these are a few that stood out to me to suggest (I looked for varying types of buses from different eras.)

There's the Mercedes Sprinters (some are renovated vans), like modern City 77 (2010) one (http://mercedesbenzblogphotodb.files.wo ... over-2.jpg), or the much less appealing classic Sprinter 308D (1995) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... rinter.jpg) or something in between, the Sprinter Stop/Go / Opstapper (2001) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... terdam.jpg). And there;s also the Volkswagen Kutsenits City I 1992 (http://www.busfoto.nl/foto/albums/userp ... 45o_e1.jpg), a very boxy example of a vanbus. Both of these were used for rural areas/intervillage transportation, as a cheaper alternative to actual buses. The buses are fast, have low capacity and have slow loading times, but are indeed quite cheap.

There's also this Japanese blast from the past. The 日本最初のバス 1905 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/j ... %82%B9.jpg.

In 1921 this little bus got into service. It's the intervillage OAD (the company) E-409: http://www.busfoto.nl/foto/albums/userp ... 06/OAD.jpg As you can see, not a very big bus. XD

Not sure if you're looking for trolleybuses, but the Berna 1951 one is an early example with a very simplistic design. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berna This Wikipedia also features the 1946 Berna 4 UPO. Another beautiful bus with a charming nose. The 4 UPO is an urban bus, taking it from the fact there's only one name mentioned on the side of it, haha. In general, all Berna buses are nice, in my opinion.

In America, Greyhound is one of the biggest intercity bus service companies. Their buses are often uniquely styled and most certainly differ from European buses. There's the Greyhound GM PD-4103 from 1951: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_PD-4103 (http://www.motorstown.com/images/gm-pd-4103-08.jpg). The Greyhound 1954 Scenic Cruiser has already been added, and boy what a joy that bus is. I also have a thing for the design of the Greyhound Silversides (http://www.vintagetrailercamp.com/galle ... .sized.jpg).

The 1959 Mercedes-Benz L312 bus is also a fine bus with some serious looks. http://www.sva-museumbussen.nl/?page_id=2142 It was used for all kinds of services: intravillage/suburban, as well as even serious touring. Gorgeous bus.

From 1967 - 1988, the standaardstreekbus slowly entered into the Dutch transportation scene. However, the 12m long 1980-1981 MB200 is probably the most characteristic standaardstreekbuses the Netherlands has witnessed (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... do8899.jpg). The term 'standaardstreekbus' literally means 'standard intercity bus,' so you can imagine for what type of service they were used for. In 1988 these buses were followed up by the Den Oudsten B88. These became one of the most common buses seen across The Netherlands. They came in unarticulated, articulated and even trolleybus varieties (In Arnhem). Den Oudsten is a shell though, the specific model buses have different names, and are either DAF or Volvo. Depending on the model and transport company, these buses were used as all different services. For a broad feeling of nostalgia, these buses have to be included in the game. :3 http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den_Oudsten_B88.

PS: I don't like to stick with the same thing all the time, but also in 1967, but I have to include the Leyland-Den Oudsten "Duikboot" because of its mad nose. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... GDS_22.JPG). There's also these similar Den Oudsten buses: https://www.flickr.com/photos/41659357@N07/4240816326/ that went by the same name, but slightly differ from the first batch of "Duikboten". These were used as urban buses.

Also, there is already one Bedford bus in the set included, but there's also this 1968 beauty: the Bedford TDT502, complete with photos and information: http://www.busfoto.nl/foto/displayimage ... play_media That is one fancy bus, and I presume it's for longer journeys.

There's also the open-top double decker buses, such as the ones that Transports Metropolitans de Barcelona (TMB) use. Never seen open-top double deckers drawn for OpenTTD. Clearly an urban bus used for round-trips (which is a nice difference from services that go from point A to B and back to A. http://www.flytobarcelona.org/wp-conten ... istic1.jpg

The Irisbus Crealis Neo is the only Irisbus that I'd say you're missing out on right now. This 2008 urban bus features a very recognizable design, and comes in unarticulated, articulated and even trolley. http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irisbus_Crealis_Neo

I can go on for a while with all kinds of buses. But it really depends on whether I'm sending you enough relevant information and whether my idea of buses to add is similar to what you'd like to add. Regardless, feel free to add whatever buses you like, I absolutely love the idea of the set. ^^

[Voyager One]

Hey Xaxa, thanks for your suggestions, I appreciate them very much.

I've been planning to add a Mercedes Sprinter, so one of them will certainly get in as a minibus, somewhere...

The Japanese thing is fantastic, do you have any stats about it? I'll be blunt and possibly rude but I've already made it clear that I won't drawn anything that hasn't got (most) stats or at least very close estimates. Same applies for the OAD bus, great but no stats AFAIK.

Berna - no trolleybuses, buses only in this set.

I've discarded the GM PD-4103 and the Silversides because of the Scenicruiser but I can always add them at a later point.

Also, the Mercedes-Benz L312 was discarded because I've already added the Mercedes O3500, very similar in stats but comes 10 years earlier.

Bedford - almost identical in stats to the Bedford OB that is included.

Den Oudsten buses - currently on "stand-by", I must see which one fits best in some possible timeframe gaps.

Open-top doubledeckers - no. They are mostly for modern tourist services, very very few (if any) were used for "normal" urban transport. Also, many are simply "opened" variants of some DD buses I've already included.

Irisbus Crealis Neo - we'll see about that one, I'll keep it on hold for now as there are some very similar buses on the list right now - regardless of it's nice design.

All in all - some suggestions are interesting, I must research them more closely. Also, please, no stats - no sprites. I would like this set to be as historically accurate and realistic as possible.
(So far I've guesstimated only 2 numbers in that whole table!)

[Voyager One]

A few new ones...

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[Voyager One]

... and a few more...

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