The 2cc Bus Set

[Creideiki]

... and a few more...
{Sprite sheets trimmed.}

How is it that you can produce such high quality work so fast? It's amazing.

Also, gotta say I like the look of the Neoplan Centroliner.

[Simozzz]

Let me add some more suggestions:

Name / Years build / Weight(t) / Power(hp) / Speed(km/h) / Capacity / Lenght (mm)
Ya 6 / 1929-1932 / 6 / 93 / 50 / 35 / 7750
YaA 2 / 1932-1934 / 9 / 103-120 / 48 / 80 / 11450
LAZ 695B / 1958-1964 / 10 / 102 / 65 / 55 / 9220
LAZ 695N / 1976-2006 / 11 / 150 / 86 / 67 / 11630
LAZ 699R / 1978-2002 / 13 / 180 / 102 / 41 / 10540
Ikarus 250 / 1971-2003 / 16 / 192-280 / 120 / 60 / 12000
Ikarus 435 / 1985-2003 / 28 / 258 / 100 / 170 / 17850
ZIL 158 / 1957-1970 / 7 / 109 / 65 / 60 / 9030
LiAZ 5256 / 1986-... / 17 / 195 / 120 / 117 / 11400
MAZ 103 / 1996-... / 18 / 230 / 113 / 110 / 11985
MAZ 107 / 2001-... / 24 / 205 / 85 / 150 / 14480
Volgabus 6270.06 / 2007-... / 25 / 320 / 120 / 135 / 14685
Hyundai UNIVERSE / 2007-... / 12 / 380 / 142 / 45 / 11780

[Voyager One]

ow is it that you can produce such high quality work so fast?

Practice, practice, practice...

Let me add some more suggestions:

Thanks mate, I'll take a close look at them and see if any fit.

[Xaxa]

Yes, the specs, I shall take a look for you.

Name / Service years / Weight (kg) / Power (bhp) / Speed (km/h) / Capacity / Length (mm)
Sprinter City 77 / 2010 - PRESENT / unknown top speed (urban speeds) / 5950 kg / 163 bhp / 40 / 8700 mm
Sprinter Transfer 45 / 2006 - PRESENT / unknown top speed (intercity/intervillage speeds) / ~5300 kg / 150 bhp / 22 / 7345 mm
First-generation Sprinter City 35 / 1995-2006 / unknown top speed (suburban speeds) / ~5000kg / 120 bhp / 22 / 6945 mm

For all the specs of the Mercedes-Benz Sprinter Cities, check this link.

First generation Volkswagen Kutsenits City IV / unknown top speed (suburban speeds) / 1994 - 2006 / 11,023 lbs (= 5000 kg) / 130 bhp / 27 / 6930 mm

Googling for specs of the 日本最初のバス 1905, I figured I'd give 日本最初のバス translating into English a shot. It basically means "Japan's first bus" and is therefore not a name. The bus does not have a name, but is a 12 seater. 18 bhp. 1000 kg (that's including the conductor, but close enough.) It only ran for a few months (1905 feb to september). Length unknown. The article mentions a "14,5 km motor". I take it that is the top speed. "The first bus" is also a controversial title, as a 6-seater 'bus service' could already be found in september 1903.

I'll refine my way of searching for buses for the next suggestions I will possibly post. Looking for exact stats that do not contradict is an insane hassle. I gave up searching for now after these five buses

[Voyager One]

Yes, the specs, I shall take a look for you.

Don't bother, I've already added the Sprinter City 77 to the tracking table with all its stats.

Japan's first bus

I think there's something wrong with those stats you've written, they somehow seem weird to me. I'll try checking myself a bit.

I'll refine my way of searching for buses for the next suggestions I will possibly post.

Look, before you start bothering with a bus stats, take a look at the tracking table and see if there is a need for a bus of that sort in that exact period. E.g. if a certain decade misses a suburban articulated bus or an urban minibus or... If yes, only then you should start bothering yourself with stats. If there are multiple numbers mentioned, use the number that pops out most often, it is usually the most correct one.

And please keep in mind that there are already over 100 buses on the list so let's not exagerate with numbers, let's try adding something that is exceptional in looks or stats or peculiar use or whatever else, you get the point...


As for today, very little time, only one...

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[te_lanus]

You could add one (or a few) of these then we can pretend we're a Public Transport company in Africa.

Mass Transporter (since something like 60% of "Public" Transport here is using this one)

Name : Toyota Hiace
Date of Service 1980-Unknown (government is hoping to get them of the road in the next 10 years)
Speed: Anything between 0-160Km/h
Capacity: Max 25 (but only licensed for 13)

and this one for "Improved" comfort:

info: http://www.toyota.co.za/ranges/quantum#specifications

Then we can get scenes like these:


Slow moving Public Transport


Taxi Rank (like a Bus stop but in Africa)

and later when 2CCtrucks comes around:

[Emperor Jake]

I feel this set needs more Australian buses (The HiAce is also very common here BTW), so I've got a few more suggestions: Recently Sydney got a few new double decker buses, they look unique in the fact that they have twin steer axles in the front and one in the rear. The Bustech CDi:



Stats: (source)
Length: 12.5m
Capacity: 114 (97 seated)
Power: 340hp
Year: 2012
Speed: 90km/h
Passenger Door Width: 4 (2+2)

Alternately, if a coach is what you need: the Scania K113TRBL, frequently seen on the Hume between Sydney and Canberra.


Stats
Length: 14.5m
Capacity: 64 seated
Power: 380hp
Year: 1994
Speed: 110km/h
Passenger Door Width: 2 (1+1)

[Lionic]

Wow, this thread is advancing my knowledge about buses, just like 2CC Trains did about locomotives! Thank you, Voyager One, for all your time and efforts!

[Voyager One]

Wow, this thread is advancing my knowledge about buses, just like 2CC Trains did about locomotives! Thank you, Voyager One, for all your time and efforts!

Don't mention it, my pleasure.

Scania K113TRBL & Bustech CDi

Added to the list. Scania as IC bus, Bustech as suburban.

Toyota Hiace

A nice suggestion but sorry, no. Please no offense mate...
Reasons:
- by an unwritten rule, a vehicle is considered a "bus" if it carries 10+ passengers - those 13 in that Hiace seem too much to me, not to mention 25; also, there is no way of standing places in that thing;
- the Hiace is actually a van converted into a "microbus" - this is a category I'd really like to avoid. Also, vans aren't buses in any kind of way so that's another category that doesn't fit.
- in-game use of this kind of vehicles would be almost completely useless considering the time period it comes in.

suggestions

Ya6 - no, ZiS 8 already in the list. (very similar)
YaA 2 - added
LAZ 695B, LAZ 695N & LAZ699R - no, LiAZ 677 and ZiL 127 already in the list.
Ikarus 250 - no, Ikarus 260, Karosa LC736 and Karosa C734 already in the list.
Ikarus 435 - added
ZiL 158 - no, ZiS 154 already in the list.
MAZ 103 & MAZ 107 - no, MAN NL202 already in the list, also the articulated Neoplan is of the list too (their "ancestor", same bus "family")
Volgabus 5270.06 added
Hyundai UNIVERSE - I've already discarded that one before but I can't remember the reason right now, probably something to do with very similar stats with something else.

[Emperor Jake]

- the Hiace is actually a van converted into a "microbus" - this is a category I'd really like to avoid. Also, vans aren't buses in any kind of way so that's another category that doesn't fit.
- in-game use of this kind of vehicles would be almost completely useless considering the time period it comes in.

If you feel the need to use a small passenger van, Bob's British Vehicles/Buses has a nice Ford Transit van.

Added to the list. Scania as IC bus, Bustech as suburban.

Epic

[kamnet]

So, next up is the 2CC Cargo & Passenger Van Set?

OH!! And while I'm thinking about it... how do you feel about including an option for Kerb-Guided Buses as a tram replacement/complement?

[Voyager One]

So, next up is the 2CC Cargo & Passenger Van Set?

Hahahaha. Trucks will come first... next... something...

Kerb-Guided Buses

You really want the KGB back in your life?

Seriously now, regarding guided transport vehicles, how could we implement them? Don't take this question lightly. Some need overhead wires, some need tram tracks, some need nothing of those... It may prove to be a big mess OTTD-wise.

All in all, let's finish this thing and the tram set(s) first, we can always add some of these vehicles later, when we figure out where they'll fit best.
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Haven't drawn anything since yesterday morning... time for some work/pleasure...

* goes to the drawing board *
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EDIT: Here's some...

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[Eddy Arfik]

- by an unwritten rule, a vehicle is considered a "bus" if it carries 10+ passengers - those 13 in that Hiace seem too much to me, not to mention 25; also, there is no way of standing places in that thing;
- the Hiace is actually a van converted into a "microbus" - this is a category I'd really like to avoid. Also, vans aren't buses in any kind of way so that's another category that doesn't fit.
- in-game use of this kind of vehicles would be almost completely useless considering the time period it comes in.

While I agree that it would be quite useless in-game, I have to say at least for the modern Hiace the stated capacity is correct, 11 seats in the back, plus driver and passenger seat up front = 13. As for 25, it's certainly possible, but the law might say otherwise

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[te_lanus]

- by an unwritten rule, a vehicle is considered a "bus" if it carries 10+ passengers - those 13 in that Hiace seem too much to me, not to mention 25; also, there is no way of standing places in that thing;
- the Hiace is actually a van converted into a "microbus" - this is a category I'd really like to avoid. Also, vans aren't buses in any kind of way so that's another category that doesn't fit.
- in-game use of this kind of vehicles would be almost completely useless considering the time period it comes in.

While I agree that it would be quite useless in-game, I have to say at least for the modern Hiace the stated capacity is correct, 11 seats in the back, plus driver and passenger seat up front = 13. As for 25, it's certainly possible, but the law might say otherwise

too many people in bus.png

Our "Law" is so corrupt, and Taxi's is "above" the law. So no one tries to enforce the "Law"

[Simozzz]

Ikarus 250

250 was used as intercity and touristik bus, while 260 is urban bus.

Volgabus 5270.06

There seems to be a typo in the site I've shown. The one I suggested was 6270.06 (cityrythm-15) which is 3-axle 14 long urban bus, not 5270.06 (cityrythm-12) which is shorter 2-axle one.

[Voyager One]

Ikarus 250

250 was used as intercity and touristik bus, while 260 is urban bus.

No matter, the Karosa's are quite similar. No offense mate...

There seems to be a typo in the site I've shown. The one I suggested was 6270.06 (cityrythm-15) which is 3-axle 14 long urban bus, not 5270.06 (cityrythm-12) which is shorter 2-axle one.

A-ha, I noticed there was something strange going on. I'll add the 6270, maybe I'll keep both.

EDIT: So which one is the 5270 and which one is the 6270? I have these two pages, which one is correct:
#1: http://www.denisovets.ru/remz/remzpages ... thm15.html
#2: http://www.denisovets.ru/remz/remzpages ... _6270.html

EDIT2: Strike that from above, I've figured it out. 6270 it is.

While I agree that it would be quite useless in-game, I have to say at least for the modern Hiace the stated capacity is correct, 11 seats in the back, plus driver and passenger seat up front = 13. As for 25, it's certainly possible, but the law might say otherwise.

That's the modern one, the suggestion was for the 1980s variant. Still, I think it's too small. And with a lenght of 5 meters, it would be only 3/8th long - not to small to draw but too small to have any significant details on it. I've already "cheated" with a bus that was supposed to be 3/8 and increased it to 4/8 because of this lack of detail space but to do it on this, well, simple van, that would be too much IMO.

[Simozzz]

That one 6270 also not the one I've suggested
That one is first generation of volgabus busses. One I've suggested was second generation 6270.06. Both have 2-axle versions 5270 and 5270.06, but first gen (which was mix of Scania, LiAZ 5256 and KamAZ) wasn't as succesfull as second one.

Also, LiAZ 5256 was one of most common busses in 90-00's.

[Voyager One]

A-ha, got it now. No problem, the correct one is on the list now.

[Voyager One]

OK, LiAZ 5256 added to the list but as a suburban version. It simply fitted better there.

Also, one for today (I'll have more time from tomorrow onwards)...

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[Phreeze]

again, I'm late in, 2 months of abstinence and that guy has started (and nearly finished) 20 new projects xD