The 2cc Bus Set

[Voyager One]

Karosa C734.PNG (8.62 KiB) Viewed 4232 times

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... and a few more...

GM Classic.PNG (8.63 KiB) Viewed 4195 times

[Voyager One]

Renault R312.PNG (8.71 KiB) Viewed 4195 times

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MAN Lion's Classic.PNG (8.57 KiB) Viewed 4195 times

[Voyager One]

I'll be a bit busy in this period (fortunately) so drawings will have to progress at a slower rate (unfortunately). Still, this is the loot from last two days...

Setra SG321UL.PNG (9.79 KiB) Viewed 4118 times

Volvo 8700.PNG (8.73 KiB) Viewed 4118 times

Karosa C956 Axer.PNG (8.89 KiB) Viewed 4118 times

[Voyager One]

Irisbus Proway.PNG (8.21 KiB) Viewed 4118 times

Optare MetroDecker.PNG (8.91 KiB) Viewed 4118 times

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P.S. In case you're wondering what are those greenish/yellowish thingies on some (more modern) buses, I'm experimenting with some flashing pixels to simulate LED displays on these buses.

[Voyager One]

And the last 3 suburban buses (for now, hehehehe)...

Solaris Urbino 18 Metrostyle.PNG (10.26 KiB) Viewed 4034 times

Renault TN6.PNG (8.16 KiB) Viewed 4034 times

Van Hool A507.PNG (8.2 KiB) Viewed 4034 times

Now onto urban (city) buses.

[colossal404]

Nice work! You must draw all day to get done those buses that fast!

BTW, where do I find the tracking table to this project?

[Voyager One]

You must draw all day to get done those buses that fast!

Nah... It takes me about 15-20 minutes for one.

BTW, where do I find the tracking table to this project?

Ah sorry, didn't I post it somewhere?

Tracking table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... li=1#gid=0

Devzone page: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cc-bus-set

[Emperor Jake]

Hey Voyager, here's how you could draw a truck but still call it a bus:

The Cuban "Autobus Camello" or "Camel Bus" (Based on International 9600 truck, seen most commonly in pictures)
Here's a video of one being crammed with passengers

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Int. Year       1989
Length          2/8+7/8
Capacity:       300 passengers
Horsepower:     325
Weight:         20t
Speed:          90km/h
Type:           Urban bus, 6 passenger-width doors

[Creideiki]

A 2cc Bus Set? This is to my interest!

Looking at the table of buses I'd like to "put my oar in" with some buses from my local transit authority (two current, one on order, one historic):

1. • Model: New Flyer Industries DE60LFR
   • Type: U; Articulated
   • Introduction Year: 2005
   • Exit Year: 2014
   • Weight: 19.82
   • Power: 330
   • Speed: (See Note 1)
   • Passengers: 107
   • Doors/PDWE: 3
   • Length: 18.8
   • Photo:
     
2. • Model: New Flyer Industries C40LF
   • Type: U
   • Introduction Year: 1991
   • Exit Year: 2007
   • Weight: 13.562 (See Note 2)
   • Power: 280
   • Speed: (See Note 1)
   • Passengers: 78
   • Doors/PDWE: 2
   • Length: 12.5
   • Photo:
     
3. • Model: General Motors TA60-102N "GM Artic"/"The Bendy Bus"
   • Type: U; Articulated
   • Introduction Year: 1982
   • Exit Year: 1982 (See Note 3)
   • Weight: (See Note 4)
   • Power: 255
   • Speed: (See Note 4)
   • Passengers: 196
   • Doors/PDWE: 3
   • Length: 18.3
   • Photo:
     
4. • Model: Nova Bus LFS Natural Gas
   • Type: U
   • Introduction Year: 2013
   • Exit Year: ---
   • Weight: 12.8
   • Power: 280
   • Speed: (See Note 5)
   • Passengers: 75
   • Doors/PDWE: 2
   • Length: 12.2
   • Photo: A link because the image is much embiggened.

We gotta get some Canadian stuff being represented here!


Notes:

1. I have not been able to find the actual top speeds for either of the NFI buses. However, I did speak with a long time driver for the HSR who has driven the C40LF, and DE60LFR; the HSR purchased two sets of DE60LFR buses the first in 2007 (actually the HSR debuted the DE60LFR bus for NFI) and the second set in 2009. The driver I spoke with has gotten the 2007 series DE60LFRs up to 100 km/h (speed limit on our highways) and guesses he could probably push the bus to 105~110 km/h; the 2009 series had governors installed that limited the bus to a top speed of 90 km/h. The C40LF buses were described as similar, although they had "absolutely terrible acceleration."
2. I cannot find the weight of a C40LF (CNG powered), so that's the weight of the DE40LF (diesel-electric hybrid).
3. The province of Ontario said "Let's make articulated buses." GMDD said "Urgh, fine. Have your damn buses." The HSR then promptly went "Asdfjsldfkjsdfkjsdfkjl MORE!" after trying them out.
4. I cannot find the numbers for the weight and speed of the TA60-102N.
5. Again not able to find the speed. But going by the norm here, it'll probably be run at 100 km/h high way speeds (along The Linc and QEW), probably with space to get up to 105~110. The HSR may however speed limit it like their other newer buses down to 90.

[Voyager One]

Hahahahaha!!! Nice! I will certainly add this one.

A couple of remarks though...

Capacity 300 passengers - no freakin' way. The 24-meter Renault Megabus is a double articulated bus and it can hold only about 235 passengers.

Weight - 20 tons is too little IMO. That truck alone must have 20 tons!

Speed od 90 kph is too high IMO. The most modern "urban" buses go up to cca 100-110.

Lenght - leave that to me, drawing wise, I already have a system of converting meters to pixel lenghts. What I'd need from you are actual lenghts in meters.

[Emperor Jake]

Capacity 300 passengers - no freakin' way. The 24-meter Renault Megabus is a double articulated bus and it can hold only about 235 passengers.

Multiple sources give the capacity as up to 300-400 passengers. Also see the video Perhaps it could be reduced to 200 for balance reasons.

Weight - 20 tons is too little IMO. That truck alone must have 20 tons!

An empty semi truck and trailer weighs around 15 tons. 20 tons is a high estimate to account for windows and seats.

Speed od 90 kph is too high IMO. The most modern "urban" buses go up to cca 100-110.

Agreed. While that truck could easily be capable of 100+, they probably wouldn't exceed 60 or 70 in their setting.

Lenght - leave that to me, drawing wise, I already have a system of converting meters to pixel lenghts. What I'd need from you are actual lenghts in meters.

The length of a semi trailer is around 20 metres. 15 for the trailer and 5 for the cab (including gap).

[Voyager One]

The length of a semi trailer is around 20 metres. 15 for the trailer and 5 for the cab (including gap).

20 metres is 10/8 according to my calculation table. So it will probably be 3/8+7/8.

Multiple sources give the capacity as up to 300-400 passengers. Also see the video Perhaps it could be reduced to 200 for balance reasons.

I cannot use that enormous capacity, it's not realistic.

All buses that use standing places (urban and suburban buses in this case) have a total of standing places calculated with cca 7-8.5 people per square meter of space. These 300-400 go far above that average and there are two options: scaling down the Cuban bus or scaling up all other buses. Guess what's gonna be...

While that truck could easily be capable of 100+, they probably wouldn't exceed 60 or 70 in their setting.

That's reasonable.

An empty semi truck and trailer weighs around 15 tons. 20 tons is a high estimate to account for windows and seats.

Okidoki, I can live with that.

[Transportman]

I'll be a bit busy in this period (fortunately) so drawings will have to progress at a slower rate (unfortunately). Still, this is the loot from last two days...

And you still manage to draw at an incredible rate...

[Voyager One]

Well... pleasure is easy...

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Ikarus 280.PNG (10.03 KiB) Viewed 3500 times

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[Creideiki]

[The Renault Megabus]

Is it me, or is that bus double-articulated?

Your sprite-work is awesome.

[colossal404]

[The Renault Megabus]

Is it me, or is that bus double-articulated?

Yup, that bus is (was?) articulated


OTOH, I have to agree with Creidejki, Voyager, your work is awesome, and you're drawing at really insane speed!
Keep up the good work!

[Voyager One]

Thank you guys, thank you. I'm very very glad you like this all.

Is it me, or is that bus double-articulated?

Yep! There is one more double articulated bus on the list, the Van Hool ExquiCity 24.

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Karosa B741.PNG (9.86 KiB) Viewed 3420 times

[Pilot]

Aren't you planning on including the double deck articulated bus too?

Never seen a double deck articulated or a double articulated bus before

[Voyager One]

Aren't you planning on including the double deck articulated bus too?

Planning? Already made that one, my friend! See here at the very top...
http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... 0&start=30

It's this beast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoplan_Jumbocruiser

[Pilot]

Ahhh, I must have missed the drawing first time round Beautifully drawn I must say. This thing will own all Intercity Bus Routes on the game I think, unless of course you've given it a couple of drawbacks

Also, Congratulations on passing the 10,000 post mark, you join that elite club