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2CC Trams 0.9c & 2CC Cargo Trams v0.8r

Posted: 05 Sep 2014 17:43
by kamnet
CURRENT RELEASE VERSIONS - AVAILABLE VIA IN-GAME CONTENT DOWNLOAD
2CC Trams: version 0.9c, published October 24, 2020
2CC Cargo Trams: version 0.8r, published March 23, 2021

2CC Trams and 2CC Cargo Trams brings real-world trams, streetcars, road-running interurbans and lightrail vehicles into OpenTTD. Featuring realistic capacities and speeds, these vehicles will compete with any train or road vehicle, and will provide great value and flexibility to your transport operations. Vehicles become available in the early 1870s and extend through the early 21st Century, featuring OpenTTD's dual company color (2CC) schemes and NRT support.

Project Coordinator: kamnet
Project Researchers: kamnet and Voyager One
Project Artists: Voyager One and FooBar
Project Coders: Arnoud and FooBar

The public can preview the models we are developing on our tracking table, and developmental test models are available here on this forum. Release versions are published to the OpenTTD in-game content download service (aka BaNaNaS).

Please report any bugs and suggestions in the forum. Updates will be made continually as we make improvements.

Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 05 Sep 2014 18:35
by Digitalfox
I know it's a bit early, but a quick question, I took a look at the tracking table at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... viGiER3ow/

Is more cargo tram's on your goals for this set or just that cargo Tram "Dresden CarGoTram"?

Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 05 Sep 2014 19:49
by kamnet
Digitalfox wrote:Is more cargo tram's on your goals for this set or just that cargo Tram "Dresden CarGoTram"?
It's currently under discussion. As of right now the CarGoTram cannot be coded due to some legacy issues with the code. That may or may not be fixed before the first release.

Are there any other cargo trams that you know of and would like to see included?

Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 05 Sep 2014 19:58
by Digitalfox
kamnet wrote:
Digitalfox wrote:Is more cargo tram's on your goals for this set or just that cargo Tram "Dresden CarGoTram"?
Are there any other cargo trams that you know of and would like to see included?
Well if you're asking if there are any cargo trams I want because of model or country, no, to be fair I don't even think my country has ever had any nor I have seen live one!

But I do like to use cargo trams on my games, so passengers and cargo trams would be a big + IMO! :)

I don't want to fill this topic just so recently created with a bunch of questions, but you have made curious "As of right now the CarGoTram cannot be coded due to some legacy issues with the code.", legacy issues?

Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 05 Sep 2014 21:45
by Eddi
the inspiration for HEQS trams was usually some lightweight narrow gauge material, e.g. used for mining. (not inside the mine, but getting the mined goods from the mine entrance to some accessible place)

an example would be the german "Feldbahn" (named like this, because in war-time it could be easily laid out to reach parts of a battlefield), which came in various gauges, but most commonly 400mm or 600mm. this system was used in many factories for internal transport, but also for logging railways or for transporting clay from the pit to the brick works.

an extremer version that served as an example for HEQS, that doesn't strictly pass as a tram, is the 900mm network in the northern saxon coal pits. (example)

aside of HEQS, there were also examples of (usually narrow gauge) railways that run through cities, sometimes with tram-like passenger service, sometimes cargo only, in the late 19th and early 20th century. an example for combined tram/cargo traffic is the railway line Klingenthal–Sachsenberg-Georgenthal. there was also a mail tram in Berlin, using the regular tram rails (standard gauge)

Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 05 Sep 2014 22:25
by FooBar
Digitalfox wrote:but you have made curious "As of right now the CarGoTram cannot be coded due to some legacy issues with the code.", legacy issues?
I made a script that doesn't support anything other than passenger trams yet.

For those really curious. Check the Openttdcoop bundles server. On there is something with 7 trams, but without a version number. I'm not recommending to use that, but if you can't resist...

Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 05 Sep 2014 23:07
by kamnet
Eddi wrote:aside of HEQS, there were also examples of (usually narrow gauge) railways that run through cities, sometimes with tram-like passenger service, sometimes cargo only, in the late 19th and early 20th century. an example for combined tram/cargo traffic is the railway line Klingenthal–Sachsenberg-Georgenthal. there was also a mail tram in Berlin, using the regular tram rails (standard gauge)
In the US, interurban electric railroads that ran between cities and through streets were the step-up from local horse-drawn and steam-based tram services. They frequently transported cargo between cities and major transportation hubs to fill gaps when heavy-gauge railroads did not service areas. They'd haul just about anything as long as you paid for it.

Because of the fact that the code doesn't support cargo at the moment, and because of the fact my research has actually turned up A LOT of cargo-based tram and lightrail equipment, I'm not in a rush to put it into this release, or even necessarily in this set. But I'm not staunchly opposed to it either if new code comes along before we're ready to launch.

Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 06 Sep 2014 16:23
by Voyager One
Hello, hello! We've finally started. So let's go! :D
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Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 06 Sep 2014 16:24
by Voyager One
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Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 06 Sep 2014 16:24
by Voyager One
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Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 06 Sep 2014 16:25
by Voyager One
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Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 06 Sep 2014 16:26
by Voyager One
... and last (for now) but not the least...
Enjoy! (for now :mrgreen: )
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Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 06 Sep 2014 16:51
by Digitalfox
The master at work :bow:

Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 06 Sep 2014 17:05
by Voyager One
Digitalfox wrote:The master at work :bow:
Hahahaha... Thank you but... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 06 Sep 2014 20:39
by kamnet
15 down, 85 to go... :twisted:

Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 07 Sep 2014 10:37
by Voyager One
17 down...
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Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 07 Sep 2014 17:23
by Voyager One
20 down... :wink:
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Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 07 Sep 2014 18:30
by Voyager One
... and enough for today. :)
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Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 08 Sep 2014 17:56
by Voyager One
Sorry guys, my kid's first day ever at school, I think you know what's it like... :lol:

Still... :wink:
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Re: [OTTD] 2CC|Trams - Development Discussion

Posted: 08 Sep 2014 18:15
by kamnet
Voyager One wrote:Sorry guys, my kid's first day ever at school, I think you know what's it like... :lol:
On my oldest child's first day, she cried and begged me to never leave. A week later she wouldn't even say goodbye, she was in too big of a hurry to get to school. She leaves for college next year. She's still probably not telling me goodbye. :-)