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andythenorth wrote: ↑11 Oct 2019 21:35 Is Gronk?

Doesn't make any gameplay sense. Should I?

Fake stat: 35mph max speed.

andythenorth wrote: ↑11 Oct 2019 21:35 Is Gronk?

Doesn't make any gameplay sense. Should I?

andythenorth wrote: ↑26 Aug 2019 21:53 I am open to ideas.

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Thinking of splitting freight cars and engines two ways

• Slow drag freight (refits all freight cargos)
• Fast hotshot freight (lower capacity per car, not available for all freight cargo types)

This is an excuse to include a wider range of freight engines. The stats for engines that drag coal over a mountain in Virginia are historically different to high speed intermodal through the plains. At least until about 2010 when it’s all boring 6 axle 4000hp AC units


There are a few challenges: North America had high maximum speeds (although not average speeds) for passenger and hotshot freight from about 1900 onwards, and real-life train speeds have broadly declined since 1950s. This is obviously a problem for gameplay progression, so there will have to be faking


I also don’t know quite where railcars fit, if they’re rural or interurban, and whether they travel at freight train speed like UK Horse roster, or express train speed.

• Low speed: slow drag. Able to carry anything at high capacities.
• Medium speed: Fast freight and commuter. Able to carry more cargos than express trains (i.e. able to carry processed cargos like steel or parts and maybe farm produce, but not raw cargos like coal or ores. Or perhaps it could carry all cargos but at a lower capacity than drag freight.) Also commuter trains would fall under this speed; higher capacity wagons such as bilevels and also diesel and electric railcars for local routes.
• High speed: Streamlined express trains. Luxury long distance passenger coaches and standard lower capacity passenger and express vans.

Emperor Jake wrote: ↑15 Nov 2019 05:59 Nice DVT, will there be an earlier and later generation variant too? (i.e. a DBSO and a CAF-style DVT )

• Snowplough - no purpose, but probably will do it
• Small tank engine, matching to Gronk - probably
• Beavertail observation car (gen 3 only) - maybe
• Cargo sprinter (similar to Horse 1) - probably not
• Pacer (gen 5 only) - probably not
• Steam railmotor - probably not
• Ballast hopper - probably not, got enough wagon types
• Breakdown crane - too hard to draw, no purpose
• Self-discharge train conveyor wagon for use with hoppers - too hard to draw
• Track machine - ballast regulator or something - probably not, no purpose

While i'm dispensing stupid suggestions, here are my thoughts on North American horse:

andythenorth wrote: ↑15 Nov 2019 21:33

• Small tank engine, matching to Gronk - probably

arikover wrote: ↑16 Nov 2019 12:57 Like a "Toby" (GER Class 53) or something?

andythenorth wrote: ↑15 Nov 2019 21:33 I had another idea for NA Horse: light + heavy rail types. Generally I don't favour lots of railtypes, but might be interesting?
They'd just be speed limited, nothing fancy like axle weights.

supermop wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019 23:57 Make sense for many US cities in the 90s - 00s, assuming you mean light rail as a passenger thing. Other way to look at things would be the US's odd insistence on heavy rail metro system even as heavy rail longer distance passenger rail atrophied - beyond NYC of course, many other eastern cities stuck to their heavy EMU based subways through the second half of the 20th century. Not sure how you might want to contrast that to the 'tube' trains in UK horse (even higher capacity and even worse aging?), or if you'd just reuse the same vehicles but with different names and more silver-y sprites....

supermop wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019 23:57 Looks great! I think a flat front DBSO that looks like the mail railcar is good.

Make sense for many US cities in the 90s - 00s, assuming you mean light rail as a passenger thing.

Emperor Jake wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019 07:49 Found another bug: the Scooby mail railcar looks like the passenger version depending on the angle (version 2.1.1)

phobos2077 wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019 18:44 What's the deal with wagons having randomized colors? Would be nice to have an option to turn this feature off as it makes trains look a bit ugly.

• flip the colour of individual wagons with ctrl-click in depot (in some cases this sets an alternative livery though)
• set wagon company colours both the same in colour/livery settings window

andythenorth wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019 08:09 Super! I'll fix that. Good spot, thanks.

Emperor Jake wrote: ↑21 Nov 2019 13:42 Just found out the Dover does it as well, but only in the alternate livery (which is why I didn't spot it while testing before)

• version gets correctly reported in game
• clicking "update" in the NewGRF list replaces correctly Iron Horse 2.1.1 with this new version
• and it seems to work in game also

arikover wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019 17:23 So far, so good: