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yeah, i know, its like, half completed actually :P


anyone know any zepplin sites?

then I could get a good idea of how much it could carry.

(no led zepplin sites! :twisted: )
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http://spot.colorado.edu/~dziadeck/zf/announcements.htm

Passenger numbers for the Hindenburg seem to have been 91, while the lift mass was 112. Variation 91 passengers and their luggage takes less than 9 tonnes, and the cabin fittings proabably another 10. The extra lift was probably due to the fact that the Hindenburg (and her sister ship the Graf Zepellin 2) was designed with Helium in mind, but was then filled with hydrogen, as the US wouldn't export helium to Nazi Germany.
In terms of more modern airships, the Zepellin NT only carries 12 passengers with minimal accomodation, but cargolifter keep on saying that they are going to build an airship with a 160t lift capacity, and then goinf bankrupt
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ours is long and straight most of the way, like

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Will the Zeppelin in TTD be an "helicopter"? Then the Heliport would be much more usable than it is at the moment :wink:
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Saskia wrote:Will the Zeppelin in TTD be an "helicopter"? Then the Heliport would be much more usable than it is at the moment :wink:
A good suggestion, would need to redraw the graphics though, to a zeplin mooring tower or something of that sort

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We should have big Zeppelins (for passengers only) with bad reliability in the early years, then no Zeppelins at all (say after the Hinderburg crash), and later such things like Zeppelin NT for passengers and Cargolifter for goods - say a tycoon has recovered the project :lol: When we have such a Zeppelin mooring tower, Helicopters should only be able to land on airports, but get a higher priority when landing. Would that eventually be possible? :D If not, we simply add an mooring thingy to the heliport :lol:
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Saskia wrote: When we have such a Zeppelin mooring tower, Helicopters should only be able to land on airports, but get a higher priority when landing. Would that eventually be possible? :D If not, we simply add an mooring thingy to the heliport :lol:
Or wait for the new station graphics mod, and have graphics for both heliport and mooring tower :)
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Yep, it will behave like a heli.
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well, I give, I cannot do other directions and have only got as far as zep5.png :(

How many views have you got done, Dinges?
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4 or 5, can't remember

I took the base, and repainted it (becouse it was an ugly color)
Then I made a flip
I made a side view, which is not quite done yet.
And I tried a front view
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its hard to get the curves in, isn't it :evil:
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I think your vertical-direction views are somewhat wrong, they need to be more foreshortened. You are not looking directly down on the zeppelin, remember, you are looking diagonally down from somewhat the front or rear. 45o angle or so I think. So it should be 2/3 or 1/2 shorter.
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If you'd use the comments krtaylor gave you would be very far, just a recoloring would make it somewhat looking better :wink:
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I don't see the point with a recoloring, since those pre WW2 zeppelins were... well, grey. They weren't alien-green or sky-blue nor fire-red or sun-yellow :mrgreen:
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well, it could be a little more white, it looks like a exploded airplane right now
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Yes, it could be a LITTLE more white, like one hue all round, but from previous discussions I believe the TTD pallette is rather weak in the grayscale area, so this might be the best you can get.

As far as colors, you could put a company-color swastika on the tailfins to be realistic. Ouch! NO, don't do that. You could put a dot or something on the tailfins, or on the control carriage.

We did a lot of research on zeppelins once before and found plenty of links, do a search in the forums.
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Well, apart from the swastika *ahem* I like your ideas, krtaylor :wink:

It would be nice if the outmost parts of the tail fins as well as some sort of logo (also on the tail fins) would be player-coloured. Or maybe... no, never mind.
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Saskia wrote:Helicopters should only be able to land on airports, but get a higher priority when landing. Would that eventually be possible? :D If not, we simply add an mooring thingy to the heliport :lol:
Noooooo! For heaven's sake! More priority to helis at airports??? That'd drive us crazy! Let's allow Zeppelins to land on heliports, nothing is needed to be added to Andrex's heliport, IMHO.
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Yeah just need to add a Small girder tower for mooring, them things need tying down

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Sorry Endre, I only thought of this, because I think it would be very funny to see a Zeppilin landing on a oil rig :lol: but it was only a thought :wink:
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