ISR/DWE style dock and objects, Version 1.1 released

[Supercheese]

... it's not even possible to build more than one dock per station, let alone allocate ships to specific docks.

Unless you use the New Map Features patch .

[FLHerne]

... it's not even possible to build more than one dock per station, let alone allocate ships to specific docks.

Unless you use the New Map Features patch .

I think that qualifies as "a lot of new code" as I said above.

[skippern]

As this touches up to my IRL job, I would very much like to play-test anything that have with ships, ports, waterways, etc, to do

[Dante123]

Nice to see how you put a lot of the DWE set into objects! nice work

[MrRB]

There might be a couple of problems that may cause your issue if you are using all of those grf's in one game:

ISR style objects v1.0 and ISR style Overlapping objects V1.0 are obsolete. Only use ISR-style objects 1.4 (that version has the overlapping objects integrated in it), as these grf's takes up a lot of object-ID's it may be the cause of your problem with some objects not showing up in the menu.

Isr-style dock should as default change the normal dock into an ISR-tile with a watertile next to it. Doublecheck the parameter settings and if any parameters are set, just click reset.

I hope this helps. But be very aware that adding these grf's in a running game may cause serious troubles. Please be sure to use them in a new game!

Quast (or anyone who knows),

Thanks for all your input first of all. There's just one thing I can't seem to find out. That's where can I possibly find these parameter settings? I've tried in game, but I can't find it anywhere.

Thanks so much for any clarification!

All the best!

[leifbk]

I'm running OpenTTD 1.4.2 under Linux, and there are no visible parameter settings for this NewGRF. The dock is a simple brown-green tile on land, and the sea tile is invisible. See screenshot.

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[Quast65]

Hi guys,

To change the parameters, select the GRF in your GRF list (highlight it).
Click on "Set parameters"
Set number of parameters to 1 (with the arrows next to number of parameters)
Set parameter 1 to what you would like to see (with the arrows next of it). There is a description of what can be shown in the GRF information.
Press apply changes.

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Regarding leifbk's post:
The color of the land tile is wrong, this is possibly due to a wrong setting of the palette.
Select the GRF in your GRF list (highlight it)
Press "toggle Palette"
Press "apply changes"
This should fix the wrong color.
The default setting of this GRF shows an empty land tile with a watertile, so what you see is correct.
This is why I created that:

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I hope this all helps!

[leifbk]

Quast65,
thanks for the information, which was indeed very helpful. Nevertheless, the interface is very obscure, and even if I don't know much about NewGRF coding, I'm certain that it's possible to set the palette as well as providing named parameters in the code.

[Pingaware]

I'm certain that it's possible to set the palette as well as providing named parameters in the code.

Named parameters were only introduced relatively recently, and it's entirely possible Quast coded this before they were available. As for the palette, that is set in the GRF, but it does not mean you've got the correct version for your system. That's why the Switch Palette button was introduced.

[Quast65]

True, but at the time I developed this GRF (almost 2 years ago), I didn't know yet about setting the palette. Most of my more recent GRF's do have that feature now, that they automatically get the right palette.
Regarding the parameters, also at that time I didn't know how to make them with a nice tekst in the Set Parameter box. A lot of GRF's at that time did not yet have that and most people did know how to set parameters in the way I did.
Nowadays the Set Parameter box has become a lot more userfriendly. As this GRF is GPL-licensed, everybody is very welcome to alter it and make a more userfriendly version.

[planetmaker]

I'm certain that it's possible to set the palette as well as providing named parameters in the code.

Named parameters were only introduced relatively recently, and it's entirely possible Quast coded this before they were available. As for the palette, that is set in the GRF, but it does not mean you've got the correct version for your system. That's why the Switch Palette button was introduced.

These settings for palette and parameter description via action14 / grf block are available since 1.1.0, thus for roughly four years now.

[Pingaware]

I'm certain that it's possible to set the palette as well as providing named parameters in the code.

Named parameters were only introduced relatively recently, and it's entirely possible Quast coded this before they were available. As for the palette, that is set in the GRF, but it does not mean you've got the correct version for your system. That's why the Switch Palette button was introduced.

These settings for palette and parameter description via action14 / grf block are available since 1.1.0, thus for roughly four years now.

I said *relatively*. Honestly couldn't remember, and four years ago when GRFs have been in development for eleven years is probably still just about *relatively*.

[Voyager One]

Bump...

May I ask for a small feature?

Currenly, all "ore"-associated objects (e.g. loaders, conveyor belts...) show only ore graphics while Cargo tiles have a pile of ore that changes color to black coal too. Please, can this color change be done for the first too?

Otherwise, I love this GRF!!!

[supermop]

Bump...

May I ask for a small feature?

Currenly, all "ore"-associated objects (e.g. loaders, conveyor belts...) show only ore graphics while Cargo tiles have a pile of ore that changes color to black coal too. Please, can this color change be done for the first too?

Otherwise, I love this GRF!!!

I don't think NewObjects have any awareness of cargo waiting as they are not part of stations...

[Quast65]

And there is an even more important reason why I use the brown colors for the conveyorbelts etc:
These are the block circle colors for the candy world, they work in the same manner as the watercycle colors.
So I dont need to draw a lot of animation steps for those to make them "work".
Turning them into black would mean animation, and thus a lot more sprites...

[Voyager One]

brown block circle colors

OK, I can understand this but...

- as said, "ore" cargo piles (green circle) can get recolored from brown to black - no animation there
- some other tiles (yellow circles) have only brown ore colors and since there is no animation in these, they could be recolored to black, IMO
- and the last, animated tiled (red circles) clearly fall into the "brown block circle colors" talk so I'm not asking for those at all.


Another way to solve this completely, as we've done in the e.g. Dutch Trainset. We didn't use "brown circle colors", we used the "fire circle colors" for all cargoes and then recolored them to black/brown/yellow/gray/others via code. If you're interested in this, ask Transportman for details please. At the end, you could have ALL these "ore" tiles recolorable to all kinds of bulk cargos (ore, coal, grain, sand, fruit, grayish metals...)

[Emperor Jake]

Ok, I've just figured out that I've been using the outdated version 1.3 all this time because I assumed it was newer than the version 1.0 in my GRF list. And here I was wondering where everyone was getting that nice passenger terminal and car tiles

Great set BTW, might have been less ambiguous to name the latest version 2.0 is all I'm saying

[kamnet]

1.3 was for just the ISR objects. 1.0 is for the ISR and DWE objects.

[Quast65]

Kamnet requested if I could make a version of the ISR-style Dock GRF with GarryG's wooden wharf graphics.

Done, added two versions:

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If you want to make it modern looking, just add the dock-overlapping objects that can be found in the ISR/DWE-objects GRF:

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Sources:

ISRDock_v1_4_SOURCES.rar

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The new GRF (version 1.4) is ofcourse also on BaNaNas

Have fun!!

[kamnet]