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Re: French Trains Set - Narrow Gauge: Playtesting phase

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The HGm2/3 behaves properly with me...

The Bhe4/4 is the only rackrail locomotive that only reserves rackrail tracks.
So of course, when it sees a rackrail track section free, it goes on it, even if there is a train further, on the normal adhesion section of the track. Hence the accidents.

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arikover wrote: The Bhe4/4 is the only rackrail locomotive that only reserves rackrail tracks.
So of course, when it sees a rackrail track section free, it goes on it, even if there is a train further, on the normal adhesion section of the track. Hence the accidents.
Yeah, that makes sense for a bug report: apparently there´s a problem with reserving a continuous piece of track consisting of different rail types.

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michael blunck wrote:
arikover wrote: The Bhe4/4 is the only rackrail locomotive that only reserves rackrail tracks.
So of course, when it sees a rackrail track section free, it goes on it, even if there is a train further, on the normal adhesion section of the track. Hence the accidents.
Yeah, that makes sense for a bug report: apparently there´s a problem with reserving a continuous piece of track consisting of different rail types.
You're probably right, but then why does this only happen with the Bhe 4/4 and not with the other rackrail engines? They're all coded the same way (as NRA* engines, which can also run on NAA* tracks because of railtype compatibility).
The Irish wrote:While we are on the subject of the Bhe4/4, would it be possible to raise its top speed on non rack rail to let's say 40km/h and with rack to maybe 20km/h? Currently it is really terribly slow.
Well, it looks like it already reaches 20 km/h on rack? :shock:
I agree the max speed is very low, but it matches the historical data I found. And it's somewhat compensated by the very large capacity (no other MU of the same era can carry so many passengers). I could perhaps tweak it to make it run at 25 km/h on rack and 35 km/h on adhesion track, but anything more than this would be too much for the nature of this MU IMO (it's supposed to be a tough mountaineer, not to be used on flat lines).
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arikover wrote: The Bhe4/4 is the only rackrail locomotive that only reserves rackrail tracks.
So of course, when it sees a rackrail track section free, it goes on it, even if there is a train further, on the normal adhesion section of the track. Hence the accidents.
Yes, so it reserves all the rackrail tracks until the next normal adhesion track. But if it moves then back into next rack rail track section, it does not reserve this anymore either.
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First and foremost, Merry Xmas to everyone :D

No release of this set yet, unluckily. I've been a bit busy in the past few weeks. Nevertheless, let me share with you my latest progress:
ABH + OC
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These vehicles are:
* The ABH railcar from Renault, heavily used on the lines of Provence (with a few liveries such as the AlpAzur luxury service from Nice to Digne, and the modernized livery that arrived to our days), Côtes-du-Nord (in a bright red livery) and Corsica (here's a "classic" railcar livery, and a modernized version).
This thing was initially developed to provide upscale service over medium distances. It had a reduced capacity, to give way for extra comfort, and a rather powerful engine to be able to deal with tracks on hilly or mountainous areas (such as Corsica or the inland of the Côte-d'-Azur). Designed in 1934, a few units were being used as late as just a few years ago. As new enhancements were brought to the original design along the years, different subseries were present, like the ABH1 (Provence), ABH6 (Côtes-du-Nord) and ABH8 (Corsica), the latter having a slightly more powerful engine.
In the game, this railcar comes with its own matching set of trailers. Moreover, the Corsican version can do push-pull with its trailer, if both are built after 1960.

* The OC1 and OC2 built by De Dion-Bouton, used in the North-West tracks of the Côtes-du-Nord and Réseau Breton. The earlier "OC1" model was designed in 1936 as a replacement of the smaller, bus-like railcars from the earlier Twenties. The "OC2" model was its enhancement; its design started in 1939, but because of the war, the first units were not delivered any time before 1946. The first version was more luxurious, while the second dropped some comfort in favor of a higher capacity. It also had a second driving cab, making the railcar reversible, while the early OC1s had to be turned around at stations. Only the later OC2s were couplable, to a maximum of 2 units.
In the game, both models share the same ID. If an "OC" is built before 1947, it will appear as the OC1 (red-roofed until 1942, then white-roofed); if it's built later, it will take the OC2's looks and stats. As it was the case historically, only late OCs can be flipped or coupled.

And these bring the list of stuff still to be drawn to... 12 IDs? OMG :p

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Snail wrote:Merry Xmas to all!!!
Joyeux Noël! :D

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wallyweb wrote:
Snail wrote:Merry Xmas to all!!!
Joyeux Noël! :D
Ah, Snail has been hiding and drawing. :cool:

Buon Natale!

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Nice. Can't wait to give this one a go.

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Hello again, and Late Happy New Year!

Here am I again to point out a small bug :

Apparently, the Z200 EMU can haul 10 passengers (8 in 1st class), when it shoul be able to haul 40 passengers (30 in 1st class), according to the donotreadme.

This occurs with OTTD 1.3.0 b1.

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arikover wrote:Hello again, and Late Happy New Year!

Here am I again to point out a small bug :

Apparently, the Z200 EMU can haul 10 passengers (8 in 1st class), when it shoul be able to haul 40 passengers (30 in 1st class), according to the donotreadme.

This occurs with OTTD 1.3.0 b1.
Sorry for my late answer :) (you'll soon understand why)

Hmm, I tried the same myself, and this is what I get. If I try to refit a Z200 (powered unit) to passengers, 1st class, I do get 30 passengers:
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On the other hand, an unpowered 2-axle coach attached to a Z200 will correctly give me 24 passengers (it was a bit smaller):
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If that's not the case in the test version, it's possible that this is a bug there, which got fixed in my current development version. Most likely a mismatched reference in the code that got fixed as a side effect of me working on other parts of the set.
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Next, a few railcars from the Blanc-Argent network in central France:
The railcars
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From left to right:

* The X 210 built in 1950 specifically for this network, to replace steamers. In the set, it will be a high-speed railcar (a whopping... 85 km/h!) that, albeit expensive to buy, will help reduce maintenance cost during its usage. It doesn't have heaps of power or tractive effort, so it should be used on flat lines mostly. It comes in three liveries as time goes by and has its own matching trailers.

* The X 240 of 1984 is its replacement, also built for this network. It sports more modern looks (a nice shoebox on wheels) and a slightly higher comfort. It also comes in three liveries and uses the same trailers as the X210's.

* The X 74500 of 2002, the first really modern narrow-gauge diesel multiple unit built in the country. It's a breakthrough from the previous models, consisting in two asymmetrical units that mimic the standard gauge DMUs in their shape and colors. Comfort and capacity are both a step above the previous railcars. (In the pic, this vehicle was wrongly labeled "X7450", I don't feel like correcting it and re-taking the screenshot :p )

Needless to say, these three vehicles can be coupled together (with the exception of the newest one ad the oldest one, which were never in service simultaneously) and, within OTTD's limitations, can do push-pull:
Push-pull: one direction...
Push-pull: one direction...
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... and the other
... and the other
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Technically, it wasn't so easy to program push-pull for those things. I wish someone added the push-pull feature in OTTD... :twisted:

Right, "just"... 9 vehicles more to go... don't hold your breath (yet)
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Snail wrote:Hmm, I tried the same myself, and this is what I get. If I try to refit a Z200 (powered unit) to passengers, 1st class, I do get 30 passengers...
I just noticed that this problem only seems to happen with FIRS (at least the 0.9.1 version, I don't have other versions right now).


As for the new railcars : wow! Amazing work !
I find the 1991 livery of the X240 a bit darker than the same livery of the X210. Didn't they share the same color? Also, the X210 (1991) is missing a rear light :P

It's really good work !

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arikover wrote:
Snail wrote:Hmm, I tried the same myself, and this is what I get. If I try to refit a Z200 (powered unit) to passengers, 1st class, I do get 30 passengers...
I just noticed that this problem only seems to happen with FIRS (at least the 0.9.1 version, I don't have other versions right now).
Hmm, the test I made was with FIRS. Perhaps a different version though. I'll try to get the one you mentioned, and test it again.
arikover wrote: As for the new railcars : wow! Amazing work !
I find the 1991 livery of the X240 a bit darker than the same livery of the X210. Didn't they share the same color?
Yes, they did and they do in the set too (they're recolored via code to the same color scheme). Perhaps it's a matter of shading, I might need to revisit that. You're mainly referring to the roof, right?
arikover wrote:Also, the X210 (1991) is missing a rear light :P
Haha! Not really :) The blue X210 has a trailer attached to it (notice the number of rear lights ;) )
arikover wrote:It's really good work !
Thanks for your kind words! Hopefully, now a possible new feature might make push-pull trains easier to code, which would speed up the development phase of the FRSet quite a lot (if implemented correctly :p ) .
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Snail wrote:
arikover wrote: I find the 1991 livery of the X240 a bit darker than the same livery of the X210. Didn't they share the same color?
Yes, they did and they do in the set too (they're recolored via code to the same color scheme). Perhaps it's a matter of shading, I might need to revisit that. You're mainly referring to the roof, right?
Actually, the rear side of the X240 (1991) is a bit darker, but I just noticed this is due to the window of the driving booth's window. So I think you should forget about what I just said. I think the roof is fine, by the way.
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arikover wrote:Also, the X210 (1991) is missing a rear light :P
Haha! Not really :) The blue X210 has a trailer attached to it (notice the number of rear lights ;) )
:shock: So you really weren't joking about being a compteur de rivets (rivet counter) ? Amazing detail !

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arikover wrote: So you really weren't joking about being a compteur de rivets (rivet counter) ? Amazing detail !
Since when is Snail joking about counting rivets? :cool:

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Hello again !

I just found a bug. I'm not sure it has been reported.

This one concerns the 030T. In 1922, the old version of this engine is replaced by a new one, more powerful and quicker. But if the power and max. tractive effort change, the max. speed stays 45 km/h instead of the advertised 50 km/h.

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Hello Snail,

Crashreport.
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N8king wrote:Crashreport.
I'm going to guess that this is probably related more to the patch pack than the newgrf.

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N8king wrote:Hello Snail,

Crashreport.
Strange. It has never occurred to me.
What were you doing just before the crash? And what other GRFs have you got installed?

It looks like you've got other NG trains there. Just as a reminder, this set doesn't guarantee compatibility with other sets...
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Where can i download this set?

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