NUTS!!! Let's go NUTS!!!

[Sabre_Justice]

Nice to see some enthusiasm for a project that seeks to do something different, but I think you probably want to do more than just throw in random ridiculous ideas and pop culture references, right?

You mention eGRVTS as an inspiration, which gets me to thinking- if you're going for the same level of in-game practicality and useful variety along with looking interesting, it might be helpful to think of what functions players need trains to serve in-game, and how their stats should be geared for it? Naturally you don't want a one-size-fits-all train, but looking at eGRVTS for ideas...

Take the bus selection, for example. In the mid to late 20th century you get three main kinds of buses- double-deckers with a high passenger capacity but low speed, articulated buses also with high capacity but requiring drive-through depots (which have their strengths and weaknesses), and normal bodied buses that are much faster and longer ranged than the other types. These three simple choices give players optimal vehicles for different situations, regional and urban services. The trucks don't seem to have an equivalent of the double-decker but otherwise follow the same pattern. (and the Heavy Equipment Set does work nicely with eGRVTS by offering slower high-capacity cargo vehicles)

I think you'd want to make sure the player has access to a variety of trains clearly intended for different purposes- cheap and light trains for small hauls, mid-range trains with decent capacities but nothing too special, powerful trains with strong engines for hauling large loads or going uphill, the big expensive freight trains, passenger expresses, etc etc. Even gimmicks like car-trains (the Gmund Mog in the Heavy Equipment set is already basically a car-train, and extremely situational but I bet it has its uses) have their place.

[V453000 :)]

Nice to see some enthusiasm for a project that seeks to do something different, but I think you probably want to do more than just throw in random ridiculous ideas and pop culture references, right?

You mention eGRVTS as an inspiration, which gets me to thinking- if you're going for the same level of in-game practicality and useful variety along with looking interesting, it might be helpful to think of what functions players need trains to serve in-game, and how their stats should be geared for it? Naturally you don't want a one-size-fits-all train, but looking at eGRVTS for ideas...

Take the bus selection, for example. In the mid to late 20th century you get three main kinds of buses- double-deckers with a high passenger capacity but low speed, articulated buses also with high capacity but requiring drive-through depots (which have their strengths and weaknesses), and normal bodied buses that are much faster and longer ranged than the other types. These three simple choices give players optimal vehicles for different situations, regional and urban services. The trucks don't seem to have an equivalent of the double-decker but otherwise follow the same pattern. (and the Heavy Equipment Set does work nicely with eGRVTS by offering slower high-capacity cargo vehicles)

I think you'd want to make sure the player has access to a variety of trains clearly intended for different purposes- cheap and light trains for small hauls, mid-range trains with decent capacities but nothing too special, powerful trains with strong engines for hauling large loads or going uphill, the big expensive freight trains, passenger expresses, etc etc. Even gimmicks like car-trains (the Gmund Mog in the Heavy Equipment set is already basically a car-train, and extremely situational but I bet it has its uses) have their place.

Thank you for quite well thought and interesting feedback, I appreciate that someone thinks in the gameplay spheres..

Majority of the way how things are going to work is in this file:
http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2871
The rest of the stats is going to be filled later..
the mentioned example of eGRVTS is just a pointer because it is probably the only set which classes a few engines which improve over time. How successfully is it done is some other problem in my eyes .

So you can see that I have a certain plan, this thread is just for inspiration when drawing sprites. The aim of the set is to make it super well playable so it has a certain system which is going to be filled and is very unlikely to be changed. On the other hands I do have many ideas how to draw this and that but there is a looot of engines to take care of. So this would be about it, feel free to join IRC channel #openttdcoop.devzone on OFTC or even write here if there is something more you would like to know .

Note: and the random ridiculous ideas are just because I like my stuff being oddly fun and mainly because I can afford it with no regards to realism

[Sabre_Justice]

I was just cruising Cracked.com for crazy vehicle ideas, lo behold they do deliver.

We totally need a Fallout-inspired nuclear powered vehicle GRF. I think the Railplanes have been posted earlier on though. (and it turns out propellers kinda suck for ground transport, but that never stopped steampunk)

[kamnet]

Thanks for posting that Sabre, I am SO totally digging the idea of the Straddling Bus as a tram replacement.

[oberhümer]

I'd love to see that turn a corner

[kamnet]

I'd love to see that turn a corner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv8_W2PA ... age#t=226s

[V453000 :)]

An arc train for maglev most likely...

[PikkaBird]

Looks good, the side views are too side-on though.

[V453000 :)]

Should they be more "from the top view" ?

[planetmaker]

Should they be more "from the top view" ?

Yes. Now they look like really face-on while the view is more from a 45° upward perspective.

[Jacko]

wow nice.

I like the bus thing. it looks awesome.

[V453000 :)]

Ok, I have tried to make them a bit more from the top, results are two... both are almost identical but one of them has the highlight 1px higher, one lower. Which one to choose?

[Nawdic]

The train from 007: Goldeneye

I found out some info about this one - It was a BR Class 20 underneath this "mock" armouring, surely, this one must be an easy one to do?

[V453000 :)]

The point is, why ... sure, it is a strange locomotive but I do not really need armoured trains In the end it would probably look just like long gray "thing" on the first sight anyway..

[FooBar]

Heh, that train somehow reminds me of Darth Vader in an Angry Bird shape

[Jacko]

LOL

you could use the shape but not bother wih armour.

[V453000 :)]

LOL

you could use the shape but not bother wih armour.

That is quite true maybe not equal shape but something like that, quite probably yes..

[Jacko]

Its a bit the X2001, the train with a personality
(i.e. it has a sad face on the front of it)

[V453000 :)]

Well hello again, this time I bring to you a whole series of four engines.

These are the maglev strong class engines, visually "evolving" between the 4 stages.

Opinions, thoughts, spotted mistakes?

[planetmaker]

Company colours (and 2nd company colour) are best done by a recolouring within the game - and they need not necessarily obey the player's CC. That needs no separate drawing - just make sure that the CC and 2CC use the proper palette index. That way you have all 256 2CC combinations at your disposal.