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OpenGFX+ Trains development thread
Posted: 11 Oct 2010 06:40
by planetmaker
One thing this NewGRF could use are a few more translations. The English language file can be downloaded here:
http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogf ... efault.lng, existing translations reviewed on
http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogf ... /show/lang
If you like to have this grf translated into your language please post the translation here, don't forget to mention the language; the text files must be UTF-8 encoded.
Also if you have other issues with these set, please say so here
One thing mentioned already are cargo capacity, where do they need adjustment?
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 11 Oct 2010 15:03
by Timmaexx
I guess, the german translation is already implemented?!
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 11 Oct 2010 15:13
by planetmaker
Timmaexx wrote:I guess, the german translation is already implemented?!
Yes, the only two available languages currently are English and German.
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 11 Oct 2010 17:31
by Bob_Mackenzie
Allows to set compatibility. If you add this set to an existing game, and have
already bought train vehicles, don't disable any wagons, otherwise it's save and recommended to disable the unneeded wagons (default setting).
I'm sorry but I don't understand what this means
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 11 Oct 2010 17:42
by planetmaker
I obviously did a remarkably bad job explaining that, you're not alone. I updated the text above slightly.
This setting disables all default wagons. I don't recommend to do that should you add this newgrf to a running game. Default of this setting is to disable all default wagons.
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 11 Oct 2010 19:15
by Lord Aro
I think it should also be:
"...otherwise it's
safe..."
Noun, not verb...
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 11 Oct 2010 21:15
by buttercup
Lord Aro wrote:I think it should also be:
"...otherwise it's
safe..."
Noun, not verb...
I believe the word you're looking for is
adjective. (And save can be used as a noun anyway.)
planetmaker: I noticed you've included my name in the list of credits. This is quite unnecessary as all I did for the original OpenGFX trains was the initial offsets and I'm sure these have been adjusted by other people since then. In any case, I certainly didn't do any of the drawing.
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 11 Oct 2010 22:15
by Bob_Mackenzie
This setting disables all default wagons. I don't recommend to do that should you add this newgrf to a running game. Default of this setting is to disable all default wagons.
Thats better
Assuming I understand this correctly may I recommend...
Add the following to the GRF description: This GRF removes all the default wagons. However this behaviour can be modified by a parameter
Then add the parameter description: Set to <insert number here> to allow this GRF to be used with the default wagons
Cheers
Bob
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 11 Oct 2010 22:50
by oberhümer
So, about the cargo capacity: Especially express cars should have a slightly higher capacity. For example, the default food wagon can carry 25 crates of food (=12 tons), while the default iron ore wagon can carry 30 tons.
Another thing that came to my mind: two generations of passenger and freight cars (one short, one long).That would balance train length and weight better in comparison with available engines, instead of just having the same average value for 100 years.
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 12 Oct 2010 05:08
by planetmaker
buttercup wrote:planetmaker: I noticed you've included my name in the list of credits. This is quite unnecessary as all I did for the original OpenGFX trains was the initial offsets and I'm sure these have been adjusted by other people since then. In any case, I certainly didn't do any of the drawing.
Oh - you're listed as one of the persons doing the drawing and coding for nearly every train vehicle in OpenGFX
Yes, I messed with most offsets at some stage.
oberhümer wrote:So, about the cargo capacity: Especially express cars should have a slightly higher capacity. For example, the default food wagon can carry 25 crates of food (=12 tons), while the default iron ore wagon can carry 30 tons.
Another thing that came to my mind: two generations of passenger and freight cars (one short, one long).That would balance train length and weight better in comparison with available engines, instead of just having the same average value for 100 years.
I'll look at the capacity, thanks.
Generations for the wagons are a planned feature indeed.
Bob_Mackenzie wrote:
Add the following to the GRF description: This GRF removes all the default wagons. However this behaviour can be modified by a parameter
Then add the parameter description: Set to <insert number here> to allow this GRF to be used with the default wagons
Sounds like a plan. Though this is a boolean parameter, no number to set, just yes or no (you should check out current nightlies
). Still it'll make sense as legacy for older versions - but those don't show the parameter descriptions.
Zephyris wrote:Could I suggest some futuristic trains and monorail vehicles so that those railtypes don't immediately go obselete once monorail and then maglev become availble?
I guess it won't be the next addition, but definitely an option
The overall time frame for the default engines is too small, it needs a few earlier as well as later ones.
lawton27 wrote:I trust tenders for steam locomotives is also on a coming soon?
Yes, there'll be one or more. I'm still a bit undecided how exactly to use them, what effect they'll have as I don't want them as a hard requirement. Currently I'm working on getting one into the game which will add a bit extra power to the steam engines it works with.
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 12 Oct 2010 06:41
by DJ Nekkid
Question planetmaker:
With "disable default wagons" i assume you disable them by setting the action0/climate parameter to 00? if so, i cant see a reason for this to be unsafe. Atleast with the enginepool turned on.
In the 2cc-set I have "disabled" (i.e. climate availability is 00) but this engine is always the 2nd (or 3rd for that matter) of an articulated engine with multiple parts. It be a tender or the 2nd part of the Iore. So, all in all, disableing by climate parameter should be safe as such (with enginepool, but do people NOT use enginepool?)
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 12 Oct 2010 06:47
by planetmaker
DJ Nekkid wrote:With "disable default wagons" i assume you disable them by setting the action0/climate parameter to 00? if so, i cant see a reason for this to be unsafe. Atleast with the enginepool turned on.
Yes, that's the way I disable wagons. But I assume that it will be unsafe when there are already wagons of that kind around (i.e. like disabling those wagons after you just bought a couple of trains) - like: never change newgrf on a running game
Of course I assume enabled engine pool (who hasn't?). That actually gives me the idea: I should check for it
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 12 Oct 2010 07:02
by Zephyris
Can I suggest you add action0s for all default vehicles which should appear when using this set? Optionally removing some wagons could still be done via parameter... That way this grf could be loaded in parallel with any other trainset and still provide the default engines.
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 12 Oct 2010 07:11
by planetmaker
Zephyris wrote:Can I suggest you add action0s for all default vehicles which should appear when using this set? Optionally removing some wagons could still be done via parameter... That way this grf could be loaded in parallel with any other trainset and still provide the default engines.
Yes, that makes sense. Added to the
tracker.
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 12 Oct 2010 19:31
by ZxBiohazardZx
need dutch translations?
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 12 Oct 2010 19:52
by DJ Nekkid
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lang: 2F
STR_GRF_NAME :OpenGFX+ Tog {VERSION}
STR_GRF_DESCRIPTION :
{ORANGE}OpenGFX+ Tog{BLACK} forbedrer de standard lokomotivene og utvider vognvalget
Designet til å passe til OpenGFX.{}
Programering: {SILVER}planetmaker, Terkhen{}
{BLACK}Grafikk: {SILVER}Zeyphris, DanMacK, buttercup, molace, Uzurpator{}
{BLACK}Lisens: {SILVER}GPL v2{}
{BLACK}Webside: {SILVER}http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-tog{}
{BLACK}En spesiell takk til {SILVER}Yexo{BLACK} og {SILVER}Ammler{BLACK} for deres støtte og bigrag
STR_NAME_BULK_WAGON :Bulkvogn
STR_NAME_TANK_WAGON :Tankvogn
STR_NAME_COVERED_PIECE_GOODS_WAGON :Stykkgodsvogn (tildekt)
STR_NAME_FLATBED_WAGON :Flatvogn
STR_PARAM_DISABLE_UNNEEDED_WAGONS :Deaktivere standard vogner
STR_PARAM_DISABLE_UNNEEDED_WAGONS_DESC :Tillater å sette kompatibilitet. Ikke trygg å forandre om du allerede har kjøpt standard vogner.(shortened this one abit, but the meaning should be the same)
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 12 Oct 2010 20:51
by planetmaker
ZxBiohazardZx wrote:need dutch translations?
Well, yes. Only English and German so far. And now Norwegian thanks to DJNekkid. Thanks
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2010 08:34
by Voyager One
Croatian...
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lang: 7F
STR_GRF_NAME :OpenGFX+ Vlakovi {VERSION}
STR_GRF_DESCRIPTION :
{ORANGE}OpenGFX+ Vlakovi{BLACK} poboljšava osnovni set vlakova i povećava vozni park.{}
Dizajniran za OpenGFX stil.{}
Programiranje: {SILVER}planetmaker, Terkhen{}
{BLACK}Grafika: {SILVER}Zeyphris, DanMacK, buttercup, molace, Uzurpator{}
{BLACK}Licenca: {SILVER}GPL v2{}
{BLACK}Web stranica: {SILVER}http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains{}
{BLACK}Posebne zahvale{SILVER}Yexo{BLACK} i {SILVER}Ammler{BLACK} za njihovu podršku i priloge
STR_NAME_BULK_WAGON :Wagon za rasuti teret
STR_NAME_TANK_WAGON :Vagon-cisterna
STR_NAME_COVERED_PIECE_GOODS_WAGON :Vagon za komadnu robu (pokriveni)
STR_NAME_FLATBED_WAGON :Plato-vagon
STR_PARAM_DISABLE_UNNEEDED_WAGONS :Isključi standardne vagone
STR_PARAM_DISABLE_UNNEEDED_WAGONS_DESC :Dozvoljava namještanje kompatibilnosti. Ako dodate ovaj set postojećoj igri i već imate kupljene vlakove, ne isključujte nikakve vagone. U suprotnom slučaju je sigurno i preporučljivo isključiti nepotrebne standardne vagone (osnovna postavka).
Cheers,
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2010 10:18
by AndersI
Swedish
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lang: ?? (Swedish)
STR_GRF_NAME :OpenGFX+ Tåg {VERSION}
STR_GRF_DESCRIPTION :
{ORANGE}OpenGFX+ Tåg{BLACK} förbättrar standardlokomotiven och utvidgar vagnvalen
Designad för OpenGFX.{}
Programmering: {SILVER}planetmaker, Terkhen{}
{BLACK}Grafik: {SILVER}Zeyphris, DanMacK, buttercup, molace, Uzurpator{}
{BLACK}Licens: {SILVER}GPL v2{}
{BLACK}Website: {SILVER}http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-tog{}
{BLACK}Speciellt tack till {SILVER}Yexo{BLACK} och {SILVER}Ammler{BLACK} för deras stöd och bidrag
STR_NAME_BULK_WAGON :Bulkvagn
STR_NAME_TANK_WAGON :Tankvagn
STR_NAME_COVERED_PIECE_GOODS_WAGON :Styckegodsvagn (täckt)
STR_NAME_FLATBED_WAGON :Flatvagn
STR_NAME_REFRIGERATOR_WAGON :Kylvagn
STR_PARAM_DISABLE_UNNEEDED_WAGONS :Deaktivera standardvagnar
STR_PARAM_DISABLE_UNNEEDED_WAGONS_DESC :Deaktivera inte standardvagnar om du lägger till det här setet till ett pågående spel.
Annars är det säkert (och rekommenderas) att avaktivera onödiga standardvagnar (standard).
g).
Re: OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2010 14:44
by peetleouf
French :
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lang: 7F
STR_GRF_NAME :OpenGFX+ Trains {VERSION}
STR_GRF_DESCRIPTION :
{ORANGE}OpenGFX+ Trains{BLACK} améliore les véhicules ferroviaires de base et augmente le nombre de cargaison transportable.{}
Design correspondant au style OpenGFX.{}
Programming: {SILVER}planetmaker, Terkhen{}
{BLACK}Graphics: {SILVER}Zephyris, DanMacK, buttercup, molace, Uzurpator{}
{BLACK}License: {SILVER}GPL v2{}
{BLACK}Website: {SILVER}http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains{}
{BLACK}Remerciement spécial à {SILVER}Yexo{BLACK} et {SILVER}Ammler{BLACK} pour leur support et leurs contributions.
STR_NAME_BULK_WAGON :Wagon tombereau
STR_NAME_TANK_WAGON :Wagon citerne
STR_NAME_COVERED_PIECE_GOODS_WAGON :Wagon couvert
STR_NAME_FLATBED_WAGON :Wagon plat
STR_NAME_REFRIGERATOR_WAGON :Wagon frigorifique
STR_PARAM_DISABLE_UNNEEDED_WAGONS :Désactive les wagons de base.
STR_PARAM_DISABLE_UNNEEDED_WAGONS_DESC :Ne pas désactiver les wagons de base si vous ajoutez ce set à une sauvegarde existante.
Autrement il est recommandé de désactiver les wagons de base non nécessaire (Configuration par défaut).