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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 24 Aug 2008 19:48
by DJ Nekkid
thats what i assumed :)

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 24 Aug 2008 20:24
by George
buttercup wrote:
Zephyris wrote:it'll be great to see the font coded
Done!
I am also going away for a few days so any adjustments/corrections that need to be made (and I expect there will be a few) will have to wait until I get back.
I think the font is not readable enough. It should be more bold like.

The impression about the result we get in general (at least what I can see at the moment). The world we get with new graphics looks more noised, less contrast than the one with default TTD graphics. This makes it harder to see objects on the screen. Is it possible to fix this somehow?

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 24 Aug 2008 20:32
by Zephyris
think the font is not readable enough. It should be more bold like.
Its on my very long list of todos!

newVehicles - Air v0.2
Done!

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 24 Aug 2008 20:58
by FooBar
George wrote:The impression about the result we get in general (at least what I can see at the moment). The would we get with new graphics looks more noised, less contrast than the one with default TTD graphics. This makes it harder to see objects on the screen. Is it possible to fix this somehow?
I think that's a matter of getting used to the new graphics. I had also had visibility problems in the beginning, but now that I've played a serious game with the new graphics I don't have any problems with them.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 24 Aug 2008 21:30
by Digitalfox
Zephyris wrote:
think the font is not readable enough. It should be more bold like.
Its on my very long list of todos!

newVehicles - Air v0.2
Done!
If you keep going like this, the only thing I can post is " Amazing work, Thank you " over and over again.. :roll: :mrgreen: :bow:

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 25 Aug 2008 03:42
by athanasios
Planes rock, er fly!
George wrote:The impression about the result we get in general (at least what I can see at the moment). The world we get with new graphics looks more noised, less contrast than the one with default TTD graphics. This makes it harder to see objects on the screen. Is it possible to fix this somehow?
As he has already said Zephyris goes for quantity, not quality. Now, we may not like this but there is no other guaranteed way to finish the project (within a logical period of time). Later we can fine tune the sprites. Feel free to do it now with what you dislike most!

regards
athanasios

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 25 Aug 2008 06:14
by DJ Nekkid
if you ask me, is the sprites zyph bring (very very mostly) better then the originals anyway, and it is, imho, better to get this project to a beta/RC stage, and when that is done, one can modify and perfectionize them.
And this is also an "open" project, so when it's done will most sprites (i guess??) be on some wiki-page in an 8bbp png (or pcx)format, and people can download them and do stuff with them, and each month or quarter or half year can there be a revision of the sprites (i.e. if someone came up with something better, that gets included instead)


Plus: as far as i know is most of zyphs work done in blender (?), so it can easily be ported to a 32bbp version later on :)

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 26 Aug 2008 08:38
by wolf
Zuu wrote:
Image
Sorry for lagging one page back, but I directly when I saw that image I though of the Turning Torso, that has been built in Malmö in south Sweden:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_Torso
Nah, that's better: https://www.irishconstruction.com/page/588 ;)

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 30 Aug 2008 06:55
by LordAzamath
Because of the split, two grfs got into the other thread.
OpenGFX_NewIndustries_v0.10.1.grf [348.85 KiB] - A fix
hq.grf [48.38 KiB] - HQ fix

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 30 Aug 2008 16:52
by Zephyris
is most of zyphs work done in blender (?), so it can easily be ported to a 32bbp version later on :)
Sadly not, it is, however, all done in 32bpp and then converted to 8bpp. This means 32bpp sprites would be available for coding, but not at the higher zoom levels.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 31 Aug 2008 21:57
by Zephyris
The office block with lift (lift still needs doing...)

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 01 Sep 2008 08:35
by DeletedUser5
Nice work, Zephyris. I think I could do it. Is it the 1443 sprite?

Well, I decided to make fences for toyland (there's not really much I can do anyway), but because I do not know how do code it I decided to leave live it like that. If anybody wants to tweak/code it then go on just mention me at the end.

@EDIT: Small changes with upload

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 01 Sep 2008 17:51
by Thowllly
Hellu, newbie here.

I wanted to contribute to this great project, making OpenTTD a standalone game would be great!

I looked over the list of remaining stuff, and decided to try to do a Toy Shop (in MS Paint of all things :P ). I've started with one tower, and then I'm going to recolor it for the other ones. (I still need to tweak a few pixels before I'm ready to start recoloring it.)

So, what do you think, am I going in the right direction? Also, I hope the page over remaining work is correct, and I'm not wasting my time here :oops:

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 01 Sep 2008 21:54
by Zephyris
Looking very nice! An excellent contribution. I like the style, you are right those graphics havn't been done yet - all contributions to toyland are greatly appreciated! I hope you can keep helping :D

*edit* And i missed Soeb's post - good work too, they will be included!

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 01 Sep 2008 22:40
by buttercup
Zephris, I am currently in the process of sorting out the offsets for the bridges and adding toyland variants[1]. When I am done, I was going to put them into the infrastructure grf along with your airports and Soeb's toyland fences[2] - any objections?

[1] If you have already done these, nevermind.
[2] and also fix the error YukonRob mentioned below, and the toyland level crossing orientation issue that AntBUK mentioned a short while ago that I've just remembered about.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 01 Sep 2008 23:12
by Zephyris
Sounds good buttercup :) and no I havn't done the toyland bridges...

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 01 Sep 2008 23:15
by YukonRob
FYI - newInfrastructure v0.6 is not compatible with r14215 (Fatal:Unexpected sprite)

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 01 Sep 2008 23:26
by Thowllly
Zephyris wrote:Looking very nice! An excellent contribution. I like the style, you are right those graphics havn't been done yet - all contributions to toyland are greatly appreciated! I hope you can keep helping :D

*edit* And i missed Soeb's post - good work too, they will be included!
Great, and thanks! I didn't want to get too far along until I got confirmation that it wasn't already done, and now it's really late here in norway, so I'll have to continue tomorrow. But here is what I've done so far. Redid the shading, but still not sure about it.... As you can see I'm following the original design (but everything is drawn from scratch of course). If I get time to finish it tomorrow I'll probably continue with other Toy Land stuff.

Hope nobody minds me making several posts out of a single sprite, but it is my first contribution, so I'm a little excited :)

Oh, and I almost forgot. I made each story 8 pixels tall. I hope that's OK, but I can reduce it to 7 if it's a problem, or make each tower one story shorter if the sprite is too tall...


Edit: Couldn't stop thinking about it, and then I suddenly realized; I'll have to do "under construction" versions of the sprite as well, don't I? Oh well, a bit more work won't kill me. Now, back to bed...

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 02 Sep 2008 02:47
by athanasios
Very nice! I simply cannot believe that you had the patience to work with MS Paint (I suggest you get at least a copy of Paint Shop Pro.). Window is better than original and in proper size and position. Don't worry about height as long as you keep windows and door smaller than original. And consider that it is a "factory" building ( :roll: actually a shop), not a house, so each floor is taller (7 or 8 pixels is OK.) After you finish it, consider smoothing edges between different colors-always by hand: You have to do that with caution (a few pixels only) not to make blur very evident.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 02 Sep 2008 04:32
by LordAzamath
YukonRob wrote:FYI - newInfrastructure v0.6 is not compatible with r14215 (Fatal:Unexpected sprite)
Yes.. And we know of it. And it will be fixed. Check the "handling of unexpected sprites" thread, which was split here.