Cantilever bridge renewal

m3henry · Post by **m3henry** » 21 May 2007 18:27

thgergo wrote:
m3henry wrote:I would actualy prefer that if it was just the top one going all the way across.
I just should have just make longer versions of my first attempt?

something like this...

Chicago Rail Authority · Post by **Chicago Rail Authority** » 21 May 2007 18:33

Nice post, m3henry. Are you suggesting one uniform bridge for whatever the span length, or repeating that longer stretch every (let's say) 5 tiles or so?

Also, are developers now able to dictate how often (if at all) the support pillars appear? If the longer span were to repeat every 5 tiles, it would be cool if the support pillars appear only under the 'joins' of the bridge spans.

m3henry · Post by **m3henry** » 21 May 2007 18:48

either really and the code thingy i did would be nice for the smaller ones

XeryusTC · Post by **XeryusTC** » 21 May 2007 18:52

thgergo wrote:Finally i get it working with newgrf, this bridge replaces the second cantilever bridge. It seems compatible with TTRS3 bridges, i couldnt find any sprite conflict with it, everything was correct in my tests with in TTRS3, except of course the road approach of my bridge.
m3henry wrote:I would actualy prefer that if it was just the top one going all the way across.
I just should have just make longer versions of my first attempt?

Your supports seem to be misaligned

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thgergo · Post by **thgergo** » 21 May 2007 19:06

XeryusTC wrote:
thgergo wrote:Finally i get it working with newgrf, this bridge replaces the second cantilever bridge. It seems compatible with TTRS3 bridges, i couldnt find any sprite conflict with it, everything was correct in my tests with in TTRS3, except of course the road approach of my bridge.
m3henry wrote:I would actualy prefer that if it was just the top one going all the way across.
I just should have just make longer versions of my first attempt?
Your supports seem to be misaligned .

Its just the first attempt to change the sprite layout:) I also want wider supports for this bridge type

Chicago Rail Authority wrote:Great work so far!!! Any chance that you could mock-up a version of this latest bridge using the same entrance/exit tiles as the red bridge? (The horizontal structures, rather than the bubbled structures).

Keep up the great work!

It will, this bridge needs different exit/etrance tiles than the first, becouse this attempt differs a little than the last.

Chicago Rail Authority · Post by **Chicago Rail Authority** » 21 May 2007 19:21

thgergo wrote:
Chicago Rail Authority wrote:Great work so far!!! Any chance that you could mock-up a version of this latest bridge using the same entrance/exit tiles as the red bridge? (The horizontal structures, rather than the bubbled structures).

Keep up the great work!
It will, this bridge needs different exit/etrance tiles than the first, becouse this attempt differs a little than the last.

Cool. I'll be quiet and let you work your magic, then

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Although I'm sure you have your own direction that you'd like to go with this set, might I suggest two other possibilities?

[1] http://www.wirednewyork.com/bridges/hel ... 7apr02.jpg [Would be interesting to see some fun combinations of stone and steel for alternate bridge-types, if possible]

[2] http://www.runnerduck.com/vacation05/67_bridge.jpg [train goes on top]

thgergo · Post by **thgergo** » 24 May 2007 19:55

Chicago Rail Authority wrote: Although I'm sure you have your own direction that you'd like to go with this set, might I suggest two other possibilities?

[1] http://www.wirednewyork.com/bridges/hel ... 7apr02.jpg [Would be interesting to see some fun combinations of stone and steel for alternate bridge-types, if possible]

I will make this type of bridge after my current bridge is completed, this arch bridge will contain one huge span... But since bridge sprites combination is very limited, I cant make it in any length, only between 3-5(+2 ramps).

Chicago Rail Authority wrote: [2] http://www.runnerduck.com/vacation05/67_bridge.jpg [train goes on top]

I think this thype of bridge is impossible, becouse there are not too mutch space under the bridges in TTD...
Anyway I have created recoloured bridges. Witch one do you prefer? The second is the original.

Chicago Rail Authority · Post by **Chicago Rail Authority** » 24 May 2007 20:13

thgergo wrote:
Chicago Rail Authority wrote: Although I'm sure you have your own direction that you'd like to go with this set, might I suggest two other possibilities?

[1] http://www.wirednewyork.com/bridges/hel ... 7apr02.jpg [Would be interesting to see some fun combinations of stone and steel for alternate bridge-types, if possible]
I will make this type of bridge after my current bridge is completed, this arch bridge will contain one huge span... But since bridge sprites combination is very limited, I cant make it in any length, only between 3-5(+2 ramps).

Cool

I look forward to seeing what you come up with!

Chicago Rail Authority wrote: [2] http://www.runnerduck.com/vacation05/67_bridge.jpg [train goes on top]
I think this thype of bridge is impossible, becouse there are not too mutch space under the bridges in TTD...
Anyway I have created recoloured bridges. Witch one do you prefer? The second is the original.

I think the one on the left looks the best.

Would it be possible to also code one like what m3henry posted above (in "likethat.png")?

Ben_K · Post by **Ben_K** » 24 May 2007 23:12

I agree with Chicago... the one on the left

Post by **WWTBAM** » 25 May 2007 05:06

Chicago Rail Authority wrote:
thgergo wrote:
Chicago Rail Authority wrote: Although I'm sure you have your own direction that you'd like to go with this set, might I suggest two other possibilities?

[1] http://www.wirednewyork.com/bridges/hel ... 7apr02.jpg [Would be interesting to see some fun combinations of stone and steel for alternate bridge-types, if possible]
I will make this type of bridge after my current bridge is completed, this arch bridge will contain one huge span... But since bridge sprites combination is very limited, I cant make it in any length, only between 3-5(+2 ramps).
Cool I look forward to seeing what you come up with!

Will you be doing just a generic version. Maybe as an idea, you could do several versions of it as there are lots of its type. Since that bridge is the Hell's Gate Bridge, I would like to mention that it was one of the things that inspired Bradfield to design the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

thgergo · Post by **thgergo** » 03 Jun 2007 22:03

The second cantilever bridge is getting closer to finish, here is some progress...

Sleepie · Post by **Sleepie** » 03 Jun 2007 22:38

Wow those are bloody awesome

Looking great.

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 04 Jun 2007 02:16

Impressive, I like it.

SkeedR · Post by **SkeedR** » 04 Jun 2007 06:46

At first i didn't like it, but, seeing it ingame it does look bloody awesome.
Nice one.

Post by **Dave** » 04 Jun 2007 13:35

Awfully good effort.

AndersI · Post by **AndersI** » 04 Jun 2007 18:38

Very nice!

The only thing I really have against them is that the support pillars get too close to the track. Maybe you can strip one column of black pixels on the inner side of the pillar - I did a small test, blue arrow in the attached image.

Also, I'm not quite comfortable with the cross-bars (or whatever they are called) inside the red circle. I don't think they are necessary for the 'bridge image' and they clutter the picture a bit, even if it is more 'correct' to have them.

All IMO, of course.

thgergo · Post by **thgergo** » 04 Jun 2007 20:19

AndersI wrote:Very nice!

The only thing I really have against them is that the support pillars get too close to the track. Maybe you can strip one column of black pixels on the inner side of the pillar - I did a small test, blue arrow in the attached image.

Good observation, ill look into it...

AndersI wrote: Also, I'm not quite comfortable with the cross-bars (or whatever they are called) inside the red circle. I don't think they are necessary for the 'bridge image' and they clutter the picture a bit, even if it is more 'correct' to have them.

All IMO, of course.

Well should i remove that cross-bars, or make them more transparent? I made them becouse the distance between two pillars was too empty.

Anyway thank you all for good responds

AndersI · Post by **AndersI** » 04 Jun 2007 21:29

thgergo wrote:Well should i remove that cross-bars, or make them more transparent? I made them becouse the distance between two pillars was too empty.

Maybe they should be an arch instead of a straight beam?

SkeedR · Post by **SkeedR** » 04 Jun 2007 22:09

When can i have it?

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 05 Jun 2007 11:14

Weirdy wrote:When can i have it?

Weirdy, you're behaving like a noob, grow up.

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