wallyweb wrote:Rather, I started a scenario and looked at the industry selection window which shows the "accepts" and "produces" for each industry listed. I assume that these would remain the same if the industries were actually built.
Did you just applied different combinations of sets just one after an other? Well, than it is a known problem.
2Csaboka:
It is the case we discussed about map editor, I suppose. You've suggested to ad a special cheat to clear the structure. Do you plan to do it yet?
I'm not just planning to do it, I've already done it. It's somewhat kludgy, but at least allows you to get rid of the industry sets you don't want anymore.
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.—Philip K. Dick
Csaboka wrote:I'm not just planning to do it, I've already done it. It's somewhat kludgy, but at least allows you to get rid of the industry sets you don't want anymore.
Csaboka wrote:I'm not just planning to do it, I've already done it. It's somewhat kludgy, but at least allows you to get rid of the industry sets you don't want anymore.
I get reproducable crashes when using the ECS town vector in conjunction with articulated vehicles. The game crashes onto the desktop when I try to sell an articulated vehicle. No error log is created. It does not matter what kind of vehicle I try to sell (tried with trams as well as with buses from my own set), as long as it is an articulated one. Disabling ECSTownw.grf solved the crashes. I also tried disabling all grfs except for the ECS one and my road vehicle set, but it still crashed.
I'm using nightly r1411 (windows version), config files are attached.
Thanks George
I understand now. I was worried that the dots indicated a problem but now I see that they don't. They indicate production line status, which is a good idea. I like it. However, I do find the dots a bit distracting. I am going to think about this for a little while, and if you do not mind, I will suggest perhaps a less distracting way to do this.
Thanks George
I understand now. I was worried that the dots indicated a problem but now I see that they don't. They indicate production line status, which is a good idea. I like it. However, I do find the dots a bit distracting. I am going to think about this for a little while, and if you do not mind, I will suggest perhaps a less distracting way to do this.
It is a test phase now (beta). I'll remove them later as soon as I decide that there are no bugs.
In the scenario editor, I am trying to build a printing works
I am unable to build it.
I keep getting one of four error messages:
1. "Must be built in town suburbs."
2. "Must be built in towns."
3. "Must be built near water."
4. "Can't build near water."
The information on your web site is too vague. Can you be more specific as to where an industry can be built?
For instance, what do those errors mean?
How can one tile be too close to water and the tile next to it will say must be built near water? This does not make sense.
On a related point, what if a player starts a new game where none of the towns are near water? There are several industries which he will not be able to have. The player will never be able to see those industries.
In the scenario editor, I am trying to build a printing works
I am unable to build it.
I keep getting one of four error messages:
1. "Must be built in town suburbs."
2. "Must be built in towns."
3. "Must be built near water."
4. "Can't build near water."
The information on your web site is too vague. Can you be more specific as to where an industry can be built?
For instance, what do those errors mean?
How can one tile be too close to water and the tile next to it will say must be built near water? This does not make sense.
thank you for pointing a bug with distance to water!
wallyweb wrote:On a related point, what if a player starts a new game where none of the towns are near water? There are several industries which he will not be able to have. The player will never be able to see those industries.
wallyweb wrote:On a related point, what if a player starts a new game where none of the towns are near water? There are several industries which he will not be able to have. The player will never be able to see those industries.
Yes. that is intended.
It is intended that in some games a player will never be able to complete a vector?
> It is intended that in some games a player will never be able to complete a vector?
Hehe. Apparently, George´s implementations get more and more complex. I´ve just taken a quick look into one of his new files and although I knew he gets the hang on it, I was really amazed how complicated he likes things to evolve, now when Csaba implemented all those new gadgets.
Would be very interesting whether "the community" likes it or not.
michael blunck wrote:> It is intended that in some games a player will never be able to complete a vector?
Hehe. Apparently, George´s implementations get more and more complex. I´ve just taken a quick look into one of his new files and although I knew he gets the hang on it, I was really amazed how complicated he likes things to evolve, now when Csaba implemented all those new gadgets.
Would be very interesting whether "the community" likes it or not.
regards
Michael
The intricacies of his vectors are not so much the concern. In fact I rather enjoy it. It makes me think. That said, the player still needs a chance to succeed and, especially with LandGen, it is all too possible for the game to build towns without water. One or two such industries, for example the brewery, is ok. As long as the player is aware that water is required, a canal can be built but industries such as the printing works requiring proximity to water make no sense at all.
> industries such as the printing works requiring proximity to water make no sense at all.
What does "sense" mean in the context of a game?
There´s sense in everything and/or in nothing. I mean, everyone could find a justification for even the silliest thing in a game: Maybe they need water for cooling their antediluvial printing machines? At least before 1950 ...
wallyweb wrote:The information on your web site is too vague. Can you be more specific as to where an industry can be built?
Documentation updated. Is it Ok now?
"Printing works should be build on flat land near water (4 - 20) towns (Rz0 > Ed > Rz1)" looks ok ... just one more question ... what does (Rz0 > Ed > Rz1) mean?
Well ok ... another question ... water bug mentioned earlier ... is it fixed now or will it be fixed in your next release?
wallyweb wrote:The information on your web site is too vague. Can you be more specific as to where an industry can be built?
Documentation updated. Is it Ok now?
"Printing works should be build on flat land near water (4 - 20) towns (Rz0 > Ed > Rz1)" looks ok ... just one more question ... what does (Rz0 > Ed > Rz1) mean?
RzX is the town zone #X radius, Ed is the distance between the industry and the town.
wallyweb wrote:Well ok ... another question ... water bug mentioned earlier ... is it fixed now or will it be fixed in your next release?
It's somewhat kludgy, but at least allows you to get rid of the industry sets you don't want anymore.
