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Swedish trains by AndersI (and others) - upd 2009-05-24

Posted: 30 Jan 2007 18:40
by AndersI
OK, I finally decided to give those trains a thread of their own (instead of hanging on to the Sweset thread). In the picture below, you can see the current lineup in my depot. The GRF file is also included.

The GRF is coded by myself with GRFMaker, without which progress would have been much slower. The coding is not very fancy for the moment, but you can at least get the trains running in the game.

The stats are still off a bit, and contains some obvious errors (this is a WIP, you know).

Contributors:
Purno (the base for Rc6, which got me all started on drawing for TTD)
Vemarkis (Akalamanaia) (the Y6, although I have redrawn it a bit)
OSkar000 (Y1 livery)
and everyone else that has given me data and constructive criticism here in the forums and elsewhere


Update 2007-02-03: X2 added (X2000 is the train, X2 the engine)
Update 2007-03-08: Y1 livery by OSkar000 added
Update 2007-03-12: R and X3 completed
Update 2007-07-30: Dm, Dm3, Iore, X50
Update 2007-11-29: Ore, Coal, Grain wagons, three generations
Update 2009-05-24: HR141, container wagons, alignment adjustments

Posted: 30 Jan 2007 18:58
by AndersI
Just to whet the appetite of the Swedish readers, here's a preview of what I'm currently trying to draw. The side views are the easy ones...

Yes, I know Purno has drawn the 'X2000' but I want it to go in style with my other trains (and have the engine a bit shorter as in real life). It will also get the ugly, modern grey repaint job (like X40). I'll try to draw the X2 variation too (local, shorter, high speed trains, a bit different coloring).

Posted: 30 Jan 2007 19:11
by Ameecher
I love the X2000, I however do not like the new livery... they just look hideous like that!

Posted: 30 Jan 2007 21:06
by lobster
stunning graphics, as i said earlier. how big will this set actually become? do you have a tracking table?

i'm sure to try it out as soon as there are some more steamers. and i have some time on my hands. :wink:

Posted: 30 Jan 2007 22:21
by AndersI
No, I don't have an actual tracking table, I just draw what I want to have in my game :-)

What I *do* have is a file with engine data that Michael Blunck graciously sent me, which gives me an idea of what is needed for a real set.

I'm still not comfortable with steamer drawing, and all the Swedish steamers are so alike, and all black, just like so many Swedish electrics (and diesels) are all brown and all alike. It's only in the latest years that other colors have entered in the picture, so it's more fun to draw modern trains (OK, there were some private companies in the old days too, using other color schemes, so maybe I could find some more liveries to add).

Posted: 30 Jan 2007 22:38
by Purno
Nice graphic, but shouldn't the grey be black?

Posted: 30 Jan 2007 22:53
by AndersI
Purno wrote:shouldn't the grey be black?
Which grey? Roof or bottom?

(The doors are wrong, too. Much work still to do)

Posted: 31 Jan 2007 01:10
by lobster
i guess what Purno means is that the overall look of the set is a tad bit bright. then again, it surely isn't bothering, and gives the set a distinct feel, imho.

Posted: 31 Jan 2007 08:23
by Purno
AndersI wrote:
Purno wrote:shouldn't the grey be black?
Which grey? Roof or bottom?

(The doors are wrong, too. Much work still to do)
The side, and front. Looks black in the picture, but looks grey in your graphics.

Posted: 31 Jan 2007 20:22
by AndersI
Purno wrote:The side, and front. Looks black in the picture, but looks grey in your graphics.
Yes, you're probably right. Not black though, but darker.

As for the roof, I think I need the bright version on the X2000, as the X2 (local trains) should have a darker roof.

Posted: 31 Jan 2007 22:49
by Snail
AndersI wrote:I'm still not comfortable with steamer drawing
Why do you say so? For what we can see of it (it's partly covered by the flag), the steamer you drew seems not bad at all! I like the shading!

Posted: 31 Jan 2007 23:54
by Dave
Cool!

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 10:43
by Purno
The pantograph is wrong. It seems to be two single pantographs, not a double one, on the picture.

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 15:30
by DanMacK
Anders, don't sell yourself short, your tank engine is gorgeous. There are always ways to differentiate steam locomotives. There are some nice looking SJ locos, I know you'll do them justice.

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 20:40
by AndersI
[pantographs] Yes, that was a brain fart (or whatever you call it). They should of course be of the single arm type.

[steamers] What I mean is that I don't like drawing steamers - it's much too much work for engines I'm not very interested in having in my game. And they take much longer time to draw than ordinary, square, electric locos :-)

Update to the X2 (panto, darker roof, darker 'black', doors), please continue with comments and critics!

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 21:12
by The Irish
looks great, but I think the front is somehow wrong.
It seams wider at the bottom then at the top, where as the pic you posted is exactly the other way around.

Otherwise, great work as always.

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 21:50
by michael blunck
> I think the front is somehow wrong.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/se/ele ... snegl3.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/se/ele ... 020406.jpg

> Otherwise, great work as always.

Anders is doing a really good job.

regards
Michael

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 21:52
by stevenh
I remember when the X2000 came to town... and Yes, I mean Canberra, Australia. Being lugged around by an XPT on both ends... it would've never been able to show it's prowess...

Please bring this to life and show Australia what they missed out on :)
Looking great.

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 22:21
by AndersI
The Irish wrote:I think the front is somehow wrong. It seams wider at the bottom then at the top, where as the pic you posted is exactly the other way around.
It's a combined effect of darker pixels and your brain's real world expectations. Reality isn't isometric :-)

If I lighten the pixels again, Purno will say they are too gray :D

But the front does need a bit more rounding off, however that is going to be done. We'll just have to wait and see...

Edit: Maybe like this?

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 19:56
by Purno
AndersI, correct me if I'm wrong, but there seem to be 2 pantographs on that train, one up, and one down. I only see 1 pantograph at your graphics.

Besides that, AWESOME! :bow: