UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Oh god...

The Bombardier Super-Voyager does tilt.

And the reason the real class names aren't shown is because Pikka has tried, IIRC, to use one loco to represent each type - 20 for type 1, 27 for type 2, 37 for type 3, 47 for type 4 and the 59/66 for type 5.

In terms of DMUs and EMUs, he's used one unit to represent the era, so the 221 and 390 are the latest development of multiple units... going back you've got the 158 and 321, and the 150 and the 310(?), and the Metro-Cammell DMU and 302.

As I've pointed out to you all already, Pikka is NOT trying to build a comprehensive and exhaustive set of British Rail's heritage and history, and as such not all locomotives are present, but I personally think that ALL locomotives are represented very well indeed.

Oh and Beardie, regarding the 325, please keep up at the back, refitting has been able to change the appearance of vehicles for months,
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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I never said the super voyager didn't tilt, i allready knew that, i said the javilin didn't and i just thought it would be nice to have the mail EMU. I can only but try :)

And i noticed that you live in preston a couple of miles from here, lol, Euxton Balshaw Lane, I don't sit here and know nothing about the trains that go past the end of the street.
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Beardie27 wrote:OK, i do agree with in that some of the trains do do the same thing, but its about the actually trains and their variety rather than specification. I don't like having all AL10s in the year 2020 for all my trains, its a bit boring. The variety of trains makes the game better.
A fair point.
Firstly I would like to say that the Class 350 is nothing like a Class 321, it looks more modern for a start and is similar to a Class 450 since they were aborted Class 450 trains "Desiro UK"
Game stats wise, they are essentially the same, they do the same job, both go at 100mph carry the same amount and use overhead power.
Secondly A Class 325 Mail train would look good in the set as a mail EMU and would not be a waste of an ID, and how can it be a refit of a Class 321 they have a completely different front design
You can change the graphics with a refit...
And just to add on the end why do all the diesels and electrics not have proper Class Names, e.g Type 3 = Class 37
For generic purposes, there were more than one type 3 and although the graphics represent the Class 37 the stats represent other type 3s.
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Thank you for the feedback,

And i get you about if i change the class 321 to just carry mail it look similar to a class 325 mail train

I was thinking if anything could be added because you did ask if anything could be improved upon, but you seem to have thought of everything.

But as i sit here one train did come to mind that wasn't included in set, The APT-P advanced passenger train, it had at top speed of 140MPH and was introduced (For A Very Short Period Of Time) in 1978. I would think that would be an improvement of the AL6 until the Class 91. I have had a look at all the trains in the set and it would seem to fit in nicely (Well Thats My Opinion).

And lastly wondering if you think that there will be no extra trains added to the set?, or do you think it is complete?

I would also like to thank you for responding to my posts and answering any queries i have. :)
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Someone drew the APT, so it'll be in the BR Set... When we get there.
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Will the BR Set be seperate to UKRS set but similar
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Beardie27 wrote:Will the BR Set be seperate to UKRS set but similar
Yes, Pikka has spoken in the past about having no intention of creating a full replacement for British trains, but there is a BR set that's been alive and dead more times than a cat.

It will be similar but not the same.

Alas, we are spamming BikkaPird's topic.
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Beardie27 wrote:Will the BR Set be seperate to UKRS set but similar
Yes, Pikka has spoken in the past about having no intention of creating a full replacement for British trains, but there is a BR set that's been alive and dead more times than a cat.

It will be similar but not the same.

Alas, we are spamming BikkaPird's topic.
The name is PikkaBird...

Whats wrong with adding more trains to this project? Also a couple new industries would be nice...
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Because the project is complete according to the only person who really matters; the guy who does the work.

Most of our thoughts/requests should really provide stimulus to the BR set(s). However, when I have visited that website, it promises much, but leaves so much secret - I dont have a login for their forum pages.
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Most of our thoughts/requests should really provide stimulus to the BR set(s). However, when I have visited that website, it promises much, but leaves so much secret - I dont have a login for their forum pages.
Create one.

It's only to keep the spambots out.

As it is I think csuke's disappeared off the face of the earth and I don't have admin rights on there, so we're a bit screwed.

I do fancy a new forum coming along, but this won't be until the summer.
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Dave Worley wrote:Alas, we are spamming BikkaPird's topic.
The name is PikkaBird...
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Whats wrong with adding more trains to this project? Also a couple new industries would be nice...
You clearly can't read - Pikka says it is a completed grf. Thus it is a completed grf - nothing else will be added to it in the foreseeable future. Is this so hard to understand?
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Whats this website for the BR set, and is there a post on TT-Forums, i would love to give any thougts or ideas for it.
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=25728

Yeah. Please bring all future discussion to there.
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Kickme93 wrote:
Dave Worley wrote:Alas, we are spamming BikkaPird's topic.
The name is PikkaBird...
oh, he is náughty, isn't he.

a question for Pikka on the subject of the UKRS: why the addition of the add-on grf? why not incorporate those into the grf itself? just wondering.
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Is it just me or is there something wrong with the UKRS? I'm having a slight problem with trains reversing at the end of stations, as in the engines. I've set the trains reversing at 'end of the line and stations'. Playing with OTTD on a Mac. I never had that problem with the CanSet on XP before. Anyone?

Erm, seems to happen on the 2-6-4 'Freight' type engine. If refitted with passenger/mail, it doesn't turnaround.
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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I'm pretty sure that's intended, it's to model proper push/pull type train services.
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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Certain engines will stay the same way round when reversing, noticably the 2-6-4 and the small tank engines. Try running things in push-pull mode too. Get the small tank engine add a few wagons and then a brake van and run the train. The train no longer turns round it'll just shuttle back and forth. This also works with the GEC 91 if you have a mail van on the end, if I recall correctly, these are the only trains that do it though.
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Two5Kid wrote:Erm, seems to happen on the 2-6-4 'Freight' type engine. If refitted with passenger/mail, it doesn't turnaround.
The joy of the tank engine is such that it doesn't need to reverse.

You would have seen this behaviour with the earlier tank engines too, I think.
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Re: UKRS v3.04 and UKRS industries v2.01 (20th of Jan)

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I have never played a game way before 1950, so somewhat new to these things, trying my hand at playing a game in the 30s, relying on steam only. Thanks for the answer guys.
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Bwahahaha.

Good luck with that ;)
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