Combined American Signal Set

Post by **PikkaBird** » 28 Jun 2007 05:41

*bump*

New version, now including regular multple-light colour lights. Do you want to update the copies on the US Set site, kr?

Parameters are:

0 = None (default)
1 = US Semaphores, Searchlights
2 = US Semaphores, B&O CPLs
3 = Searchlights, Searchlights
4 = US Semaphores, Colour Lights
5 = Searchlights, Colour Lights

With a parameter for each climate (temp arc trop).

Railwaymodeler · Post by **Railwaymodeler** » 28 Jun 2007 05:59

OK. One question that may sound dumb, but I can't figure the answer myself: How do I get any signal set to override the ttdpbasew.grf file's signals. Running American/Canadian trains with German signals looks very, very funny.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 28 Jun 2007 06:03

The same way you get any train set to override the default trains: Add it to newgrfw.cfg.

Railwaymodeler · Post by **Railwaymodeler** » 28 Jun 2007 06:08

Been there. Tried that. If I put he US Signal set currently available on the US Set page below the ttdpbasew.grf, it does nothing, which is reasonable.

BUT

If I put it above the ttdpbasew.grf file, I get errors at game startup to the tune of the message that ttdpbasew.grf MUST be at the top. Please elaborate this for me.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 28 Jun 2007 06:16

1) Which GRF file is generating that message? TTDPatch is happy as long as ttdpbase[w].grf is present. Where, or even if, it appears in newgrf[w].cfg is immaterial.
2) What happens if you use only ttdpbasew and ussigz_w? If that works, some other grf is causing problems.

Post by **PikkaBird** » 28 Jun 2007 06:45

Railwaymodeler wrote:If I put he US Signal set currently available on the US Set page below the ttdpbasew.grf, it does nothing

Are you setting the parameters? It won't do anything if you don't set the parameters.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 29 Jun 2007 02:00

I will be glad to update the website with this file, and will do so no later than this weekend. Before I do, however, are there any changes that I should make to the readme, other than the dates and versions?

Post by **PikkaBird** » 29 Jun 2007 02:05

krtaylor wrote:I will be glad to update the website with this file, and will do so no later than this weekend. Before I do, however, are there any changes that I should make to the readme, other than the dates and versions?

You need to add the extra two parameter values (4 and 5).

Railwaymodeler · Post by **Railwaymodeler** » 29 Jun 2007 03:05

Funny. Before the ttdpbasew.grf, I could use the US Signals from the US Set page without adding any paramaters. Now I do need to? That's probably what I'm doing wrong.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 29 Jun 2007 03:07

Yes, the newer version (with the different name) has a lot more stuff in there, so it needs the parameters.

However, I can see the concern. PikkaBird, would it be a huge job to slightly change the GRF, so as to give them something by default at least, if no parameters are set?

OzTrans · Post by **OzTrans** » 29 Jun 2007 03:32

krtaylor wrote: .. to give them something by default at least, if no parameters are set ...

There should never be a parameter without a default value; too many players jump in very quickly without looking at the ReadMe; then we have to answer those questions. Making option 1 the default would be much better, than not having the signals show at all.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 29 Jun 2007 03:37

Or, possibly, an error message: "\80 is not set to replace signals in any climate."

Post by **PikkaBird** » 29 Jun 2007 22:21

Railwaymodeler wrote:Funny. Before the ttdpbasew.grf, I could use the US Signals from the US Set page without adding any paramaters.

No, you couldn't actually.

Odd.

Skipping the entire file and using the default if the parameter is unset or is 0 is actually my desired behaviour, but it's a good idea about having a warning message; I'll add that in tonight or tomorrow (busy busy day today

).

Railwaymodeler · Post by **Railwaymodeler** » 30 Jun 2007 00:48

Regardless, I set the parameters after reading the readme file. Works just fine now. Thank you all.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 30 Jun 2007 02:12

A warning message is OK, but I think I'd prefer working default settings, if that's not too difficult. That way the whole thing is easier for newbies.

Post by **PikkaBird** » 30 Jun 2007 08:32

Oh, alright then.

If the parameters are undefined, it is now the same as a setting of 4 (semaphores / colour lights). Setting a parameter to 0 still makes the grf have no effect in that climate.

http://www.pikkarail.com/ttdp/grf/ussigz.grf
http://www.pikkarail.com/ttdp/grf/ussigzw.grf

m3henry · Post by **m3henry** » 30 Jun 2007 09:34

any screeniez of the new'uns

Post by **WWTBAM** » 30 Jun 2007 09:40

there hasnt been anything new since the last release

m3henry · Post by **m3henry** » 30 Jun 2007 09:44

PikkaBird should have wrote:4 = US Semaphores, TTD Lights
5 = Searchlights, TTD Lights

yes, no, yes?
or am i missing something more subtle

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 30 Jun 2007 19:46

No, maybe you're missing that I've had some network troubles, and have not yet updated the US Set download page with the new version. It'll be taken care of today.

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