New water coastal tiles [v0.7 released]

[Purno]

For once, read what other people write. Oskar said the author should provide the grf so the author should also add his personalised data to the grf-header.

Hyr, look at the times. robot_boy and Oskar posted in the same minute. robot_boy probably was typing his message when Oskar didn't have posted his message yet

EDIT: spell fixed

EDIT 2: robot_boy was replying to Shadow, I suspect.

[eis_os]

Thanks Hyronymus for clearing it a bit, FFFFFFFF means it's a TTDPatch Feature, which is not really true then, gets loaded always and it isn't possible to switch it off.

Hopefully it clears now all misunderstandings.
It's normally the responsible of the Author to create a fully functional GRF with proper GRFID and proper Description. For private use you can create a grf aswell without them, but please leave it private...

[Hyronymus]

OK, partial credits to Purno. I never check posting times and robot_boy's reputation didn't help much either. Still I think the warning-part couldn't do harm.

[Jezulkim]

Please post a grf only if it has proper grfid...

It has, of course

[lepkka]

ok, so there is somekind of beta 2

-proper ID. Now the first two bytes will be 62 70,next 01 (my first project),next 02 (second release, and so on)

-deep water more grainy, less uniform, i'm not sure if it's better,judge yourselves


I will need some help with coding. i'm doing different sprites for the others climates, but no idea about actions (7/9?)

PD: a dos version will be done by r0b0t_b0y2003

[Hyronymus]

Just a small tip: include a screenshot next time . It might boost the initial downloads you get and people can see themselves what you're talking about.

For the rest: keep it up

[lepkka]

well, animated screenshots take me a lot lot of time.I haven't found a fast way of doing it. ...and static screnshots.. mmm.. the impression they give is not the same in game...

[Hyronymus]

True, I forgot you would need animation. Aren't there some easy animation programs like Animation Shop.

[lepkka]

the problem is not the program, the problem is gettin' an entire animation cycle of screenshots (and ordered!). the animations are so fast that i have to press ctrl+s for a seconds, and it takes 40 o 50 screenshots, but even with this some "frames" can be missen.
It's hard to hand so many screenshots.

[Hyronymus]

I imagine. I won't be so picky then next time .

BTW: the waves that hit the beach look better now, less white but still realistic.

[DaleStan]

-proper ID. Now the first two bytes will be 62 70,next 01 (my first project),next 02 (second release, and so on)

Oi! No!
I made that mistake with the first few GRFs I made. If the GRFs are equivilant[0], please do not change the GRFid; at best it means we have to re-enable the GRF. If, OTOH, it is reasonable to use both GRFs simultaneously, then you do need to change the GRFid.

[0] That is, the new one should replace the old one.

I will need some help with coding. i'm doing different sprites for the others climates, but no idea about actions (7/9?)

Use action 7. check variable 83 against one or more of conditions 2-5.

I would code this type of GRF as follows:

Code: Select all

0*4
0*0 07 83 01 02 03 00 // if toyland climate, refuse to load
0*0 08 //...
0*0 0A //...
//real sprites for temp climate
0*0 07 83 01 02 00 00 // if temperate climate, skip everything else
0*0 0A //...
//real sprites for arctic climate
0*0 07 83 01 02 01 00 // if arctic climate, skip everything else
0*0 0A //...
//real sprites for tropic climate

Fill in the comments as appropriate, and then run the mess through NFORenum, which will automatically number the sprites, count the bytes, and set sprite 0 correctly.

[MeusH]

It would be really nice if docks and locks have similiar wave effects - now docks have static (was moving before) sparky-effects.

Same about the temperate climate button - I think the new water could be drawn there, too.

And the last thing, the buoy - have you changed anything to it? I see some strange navy triangle above the buoy...

[Wile E. Coyote]

WOW!!! It's coolest thing i saw here!!!

[WWTBAM]

here is the dos version

also when you post the windows version could you add a w to the end of the name before the . so you get newwaterw.grf because the grf converter requires that file name

[Jezulkim]

I liked the old water animation more, the waves in the new version are too big.

[lepkka]

-proper ID. Now the first two bytes will be 62 70,next 01 (my first project),next 02 (second release, and so on)

Oi! No!
I made that mistake with the first few GRFs I made. If the GRFs are equivilant[0], please do not change the GRFid; at best it means we have to re-enable the GRF. If, OTOH, it is reasonable to use both GRFs simultaneously, then you do need to change the GRFid.

Ok, I'll get stuck in 62 70 01 02

I would code this type of GRF as follows:

Code: Select all

0*4
0*0 07 83 01 02 03 00 // if toyland climate, refuse to load
0*0 08 //...
0*0 0A //...
//real sprites for temp climate
0*0 07 83 01 02 00 00 // if temperate climate, skip everything else
0*0 0A //...
//real sprites for arctic climate
0*0 07 83 01 02 01 00 // if arctic climate, skip everything else
0*0 0A //...
//real sprites for tropic climate

Fill in the comments as appropriate, and then run the mess through NFORenum, which will automatically number the sprites, count the bytes, and set sprite 0 correctly.

thanks, it's working!

also when you post the windows version could you add a w to the end of the name before the . so you get newwaterw.grf because the grf converter requires that file name

oops.you're right

I liked the old water animation more, the waves in the new version are too big.

yes, i prefer it to

It would be really nice if docks and locks have similiar wave effects - now docks have static (was moving before) sparky-effects.

Same about the temperate climate button - I think the new water could be drawn there, too.

..and oilrig pillars

And the last thing, the buoy - have you changed anything to it? I see some strange navy triangle above the buoy...

it was an aproachment to other buoys style..
a lot to be done

[Rob]

And the last thing, the buoy - have you changed anything to it? I see some strange navy triangle above the buoy...

it was an aproachment to other buoys style..
a lot to be done

Please don't put different things like that into one grf.
If people don't like this bouy, but they do like the water (or visa versa) then they are borked.

[Hyronymus]

Not by default, RobC. You can create a 'waterset' with several water-related items. You can let the user decide what to play with by adding parameters to your grf. I.e. 1 means new water w/o new buoy where no paramaters is new water w/ buoy.

[MeusH]

lepkka, I've found some issues about this grf (I'm using OTTD): Shore tiles of sub-arctic, sub-tropical and toyland look just like shoreline from temperate climate.

[lepkka]

New water v0.1
Done so far
-new coast for tropical climate
-recovered first's post water pattern for temperate climate (sea waves), keeping the other for tropical
-recovered original buoy
-artic and toyland no longer loading new sprites (but not working in openttd)
-grf's name changed to newwatw.grf

Todo list
-docks, pillars etc integration (canals are actually looking quite good)
-stoned arctic sea borders?
-experiment widening tropical beachs
-fine adjustments

Edit: r0b0t_b0y2003, I'll be pleased if you can post a DOS version