"French Trains Set - freight rolling stock needs drawing

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Re: "French Trains Set - freight rolling stock needs drawing

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Nice artwork! :)

But unfortunately, as others said, the sizes don't really match TTD :( For the AGC, the horizontal sprites should not exceed 32 pixels, which is the maximum TTD supports if we want to keep the trains in the standard length.

Also, be careful about the colors you use: they have to come from TTD's palette, otherwise they won't work with the game.

I'd suggest you to go to Purno's tutorials, they're good to have a general understanding of how TTD artwork works! (no pun intended :p )

If you want some more specific advice, you can also PM me (even in French ;) )

Anyway, the team is now focusing on the narrow gauge part, which we will release first as a taster. I am actually working on some passenger coaches as I'm writing this :p we hope to have something ready to post soon!
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Re: "French Trains Set - freight rolling stock needs drawing

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Ok: J'ai tout redessiner un cran plus petit:
I was all re-draw with a decrease size.
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English only please.

The _ view of your passenger coach in the middle is too short. Note that if you make one view shorter, all views/directions should be shortened.
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Purno wrote:English only please.

The _ view of your passenger coach in the middle is too short. Note that if you make one view shorter, all views/directions should be shortened.
Please report non-english messages to an admin. If you contacted me I could've told you I already asked Mister Me to stick to English. Merci.
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Hyronymus wrote: Please report non-english messages to an admin. If you contacted me I could've told you I already asked Mister Me to stick to English. Merci.
Yes he do, i just receive his message...
Purno wrote:The _ view of your passenger coach in the middle is too short. Note that if you make one view shorter, all views/directions should be shortened
I hope is good as that: (+2pixels for horyzontal coach)
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If the passenger coach is shorter in real life, you can make it shorter in the sprites too. But then all directions/views need to be shorter. Read my drawing tutorials about possible sprite sizes.

If the coach has a different length in different views/directions, you'll get ugly glitches.
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Same the last file, but train is sizing with good scale (Thank Purno, it's usefull tool)
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Looks pretty good. Good job!

However, Transport Tycoon has sunlight coming from the right <--O. So the right side should be a tad lighter and the left side a bit darker. This is also explained in my drawing tutorials.

And you can also upload your paintings at these forums. Imageshack is pretty annoying with it's slowness and pop up advertising. I'd be very happy if you can use the attachment function of these forums :)
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Purno wrote:Looks pretty good. Good job!
However, Transport Tycoon has sunlight coming from the right <--O. So the right side should be a tad lighter and the left side a bit darker. This is also explained in my drawing tutorials.
no problems!
Purno wrote: And you can also upload your paintings at these forums. Imageshack is pretty annoying with it's slowness and pop up advertising. I'd be very happy if you can use the attachment function of these forums :)
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Hi,
These sprites are looking pretty good allready. As Purno explained, the light is still an issue. I would also like to see them a bit more shaded, and maybe some variations in the colours will bring out the rounded front a bit better. But these are a really good start.

I would also prefer if you would upload the pictures directly in the forums rather then using imageshack.

Thanks, and keep up the good work.
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And now?

And, i was found an old file, I was already draw freight stock for a french set... Draw isn't finished, sorry...
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Re: "French Trains Set - freight rolling stock needs drawing

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Great drawing guys. I was wondering how close this set was to completion ? Are we talking weeks or months or.. ?
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As with any realistic set, the timeframe remains unknown.

Some behind-thes-scenes work has been happening, and again, as with all sets, the work will go faster as more people help to constribute :)
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As James correctly said, there is no scheduled timeline for the completion of this set... real life is getting in the way, meaning I have less time to draw stuff, however, our commitment is there to stay and this set will get released.

We have decided to start working on a taster focusing on the narrow gauge rolling stock. We're doing this hoping that it will raise interest in the "NewRoutes" project, that (as I understand) will make it possible to have catenary-powered and 3rd-rail-powered narrow gauge rails (along with additional rail types). It will include trains that will need either a catenary or a 3rd rail to run. The time span will be from 1881 (when the metre-gauge system started to be widely used in France) until the modern years, including currently-built trains.

Rather than including "generic" engine types, we prefer to recreate some of the models that were used in actual French branchline railroads, that's why it's taking so long to draw each single variant. We hope this will be compensated by the realism and the variety our set will have.

Right now, 9 out of the 10 included NG steamers are drawn, as well as the electric locos and the passengers wagons. I'll post a mockup here when the steamers are finally done. After that, I'll draw a couple of freight wagons and we might release a first taster.

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Re: "French Trains Set - freight rolling stock needs drawing

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Hmm, no downloads for this set yet? if there is im a little to tired and lazy to go search. If your just missing frieght cars but have the locos and passenger, why not release that for now and name it "French Trains - Pax\Mail Only"

I may not like the language but I love the trains the french have, keep up the good work, and as for the longer trains, as long as theres no horrible cliping I'll use this, besides, we should add more support for longer stuff, that way trains that are really long in real life or are something like the Odakayu 7000 LSE where the cars are connected halfway on the bogies.
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*shows Neko the door*
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jvassie wrote:*shows Neko the door*
What? Why? Cause the last post was 2 monthes ago?
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Real life leaves me unluckily very little time for TTD drawing :( I hope I can draw more stuff during the weekend. The NG steamers are *very* close to completion, but they've been like this for months now.

And this set will have freight wagons as well... the stuff will get done sooner or later, we hope it will be worth the wait!
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Snail wrote:Real life leaves me unluckily very little time for TTD drawing :( I hope I can draw more stuff during the weekend. The NG steamers are *very* close to completion, but they've been like this for months now.

And this set will have freight wagons as well... the stuff will get done sooner or later, we hope it will be worth the wait!

I wish I could help but I have no spriting skills TT_TT
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Re: "French Trains Set - freight rolling stock needs drawing

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Well. I made the B81500 sprites from scratch. I made them for Finnish Trainset, if it could utilize it as future hybrid unit. I post it here too, permission to use it freely.
Hopefully helps your work a bit..
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