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 Post subject: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:09 pm 
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Hello, this is my first post here.
I am a web programmer.
I just can't read the forum. How can you read yellow on grey? it's extremely hard.
Plus, font is sooo little.
It's just me or my browser? I'm using Google Chrome.
A good CSS style may dramatically improve readability.
I could do it, obviously for free.


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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:52 am 
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You can pick another forum style here: ucp.php?i=165

You can also adjust the font size in your web browser.

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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:48 am 
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It does sound a lot like you, not the website. Dark yellow on grey is very easy to read, although the dark yellow is only for links and titles.

You're free to have a go at a new forum design, Owen may choose to use it if he likes it. Like kamnet stated, other designs are available.

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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:39 am 
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Should have gone to an optician :wink:

Now seriously

You may have an eye problem, many people have colur blindness to different colours, as for font size as said that can be remided by adjusting your browser but there again you may need 'glasses'.

Book an appointment at an opticians.


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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:43 am 
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Cool. I picked another style. Thankyou for the tip!


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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:12 am 
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paooolino wrote:
Cool. I picked another style. Thankyou for the tip!

Question remains: are we getting an improved theme from you?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:37 am 
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Hyronymus wrote:
paooolino wrote:
Cool. I picked another style. Thankyou for the tip!

Question remains: are we getting an improved theme from you?

Well, I could work on it, I'd be happy to contribute.
Just notify me for any guidelines or desiderata and how to submit it to any mod. Otherwise I'll write here when done.

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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:42 am 
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according to this

https://snook.ca/technical/colour_contr ... ,bg=848484

color contrast ratio between #FCC000 and #848484 is only 2.26 which is not compliant with the required 4.5 for normal text (WCAG 2.0 https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/)

Please note readability may be also affected by environmental light or current screen brightness settings.

In my case I can read rather well today, from my office desktop, but in the evening with my laptop is quite a nightmare.


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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:10 am 
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Interesting, I've never had an issue with it myself, and I've never seen this pop up before. Personally, I've found the Yellow against the grey easier to read than the black in most light, but maybe that's just me. Yellow is something that stands out in my opinion.

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Please note readability may be also affected by environmental light or current screen brightness settings.

Surely you've gotten the brightness settings wrong then if you can't read it? My phone auto-adjusts screen brightness based on the lighting around it, and like I said before, I've never had the issue. Even just now testing my laptop in direct sunshine (Sunshine in Manchester, ha, I know! It's fake news people :lol: ), I could read the yellow on grey just as easily as the black on grey, or even black on white.

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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:19 am 
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Yeah I see. Plus, the fact is that I navigate the forum when my eyes are tired yet :-)

I think it's a problem of these particular shade of gray and yellow. Probably a lighter yellow and a darker gray will work - or a darker yellow with a brighter gray, just to give more distance between colors.


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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:28 am 
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It'd be interesting to see what you develop if you decide to go down that path, if it's good enough, I'm sure that Owen would consider it.

Also, before you get too annoyed at the normal theme, I present to you, the Christmas Theme! That theme has a lot of users hating upon it :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
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There is also the not so well known easter theme.

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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:31 am 
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Unfortunately the Easter theme is still stuck in the days of phpBB 2.x, I haven't yet got around to updating it.

Ideally I need the theme rewritten entirely for phpBB 3.1, to be based on proSilver rather than subSilver, as subSilver is no longer supported and will not receive any further updates. Finding the time to do this however is more difficult. I think kamnet mentioned ages ago that he could possibly help prepare a new theme, I'll maybe need to look into it or ask for volunteers...

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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:01 pm 
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orudge wrote:
Unfortunately the Easter theme is still stuck in the days of phpBB 2.x, I haven't yet got around to updating it.

Ideally I need the theme rewritten entirely for phpBB 3.1, to be based on proSilver rather than subSilver, as subSilver is no longer supported and will not receive any further updates. Finding the time to do this however is more difficult. I think kamnet mentioned ages ago that he could possibly help prepare a new theme, I'll maybe need to look into it or ask for volunteers...


Yep, I'm still volunteering for that as well. I suppose I could just set up phpBB 3.1 on my server (or Owen could nicely just copy over some files for me to play with ;) ) and I can look at this possibly this weekend.

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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:58 am 
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I switched to the white theme 16 years ago, because I also found the other one unreadable.

The new phpBB version has a clean and neat default theme, also buttons no longer use GIFs, the layout for mobile display is much better and security has been improved of course... here I have a forum running latest version, with the default style.

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 Post subject: Re: I just can't read.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:05 pm 
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I've been on this forum for a good 6 years, since I'm a teenager, and it's still fine on the usual green/grey temperate theme.

Keep in mind that readability is not just about the contrast, it's also the font - size, thickness and form also matters.

If you struggle with black & (darkened) yellow on grey, an easy fix would be larger fonts - zoom in to the site - or if it's still annoys you, you can opt for a different theme.

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