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Got a feeling she and Mickey will, they are 2 members short, and they did walk off with Jack at the end of the last Dr Who series.

Come off it though, Freema Agyeman was better on the eye. Much better.

Oh and the finale to the last series set up the new Torchwood cast, it was blatant.

I seem to recall reading something recently saying that scheduling conflicts means she won't be in the 5-part miniseries they're doing. Twas probably on Digital Spy if I did read such things.

Ameecher wrote:Come off it though, Freema Agyeman was better on the eye. Much better.

If you say so.

What, you'd rather have Tate? At least there won't be any squabbling in the likely event of the two of them offering themselves to us.

Ameecher wrote:What, you'd rather have Tate?

Meh... Redhead, well built woman. Just my sort

orudge wrote:I seem to recall reading something recently saying that scheduling conflicts means she won't be in the 5-part miniseries they're doing. Twas probably on Digital Spy if I did read such things.

I read that she pulled out of the whole thing because she has that new role.

I think the character of Mickey Smith would work. He's hardened up, and the actor Noel Clarke, still does a lot of Who related things, such as narrating Confidential, and writing the TW episode "Combat".

Ameecher wrote:At least there won't be any squabbling in the likely event of the two of them offering themselves to us.

More unlikely than Athanasios embracing modern capitalism!

I head the UNIT commander is up for grabs though

I'm good thanks.

Waters of Mars

May I be the first to say

"You may only use fonts up to size 200."

damn.

Felt it was a bit "meh", thought the best bit was the trailer for the next episode.

Nice and dark. And lots morally questionable actions.

Lankku wrote:Nice and dark. And lots morally questionable actions.

Ah?
Maybe it is worth watching after all..

I didn't bother watching it since I got pretty fed up with what Doctor Who has become and the way it is written after the end of the last season.

Badger wrote:Felt it was a bit "meh", thought the best bit was the trailer for the next episode.

Mmh, I thought it was so-so until about the last 15-20 minutes, when it suddenly got really rather good. Interesting seeing a side to the Doctor there that we haven't really seen before.

orudge wrote:

Badger wrote:Felt it was a bit "meh", thought the best bit was the trailer for the next episode.

Mmh, I thought it was so-so until about the last 15-20 minutes, when it suddenly got really rather good. Interesting seeing a side to the Doctor there that we haven't really seen before.

The thing that annoyed me the most was the comment "each kilo of weight costs 3 tons of fuel!" followed by two people running down what seemed to be several miles of humongous aircraft hangar. Clue to set designers/whoever: take a look at real things that fly in space, they aren't quite as spacious.

Still awesome though. Except that fire wouldn't burn outside on Mars.

Why that silly robot would produce any fire at all, or indeed go faster than usual is one thing that particularly annoyed me. (References to a certain delorean perhaps?)
(Also, flames coming out of the "exhaust pipe" of a supposedly 2mph (most likely electric) robot with tracks just makes me want to slap RTD over the head with a large trout)

IIRC there is some oxygen on Mars, just not much, so arguably you could have a rather lacklustre fire.


Why an infection which can miraculously create water from nothing (I won't even go into conservation of energy/mass) would want to go to Earth to get more water doesn't really make much sense to me either...

I don't honestly think it could take 3 tonnes of fuel for one kilo of weight. That sounds like it'd never get off the ground due to the weight of the fuel requiring more fuel than there is fuel. I agree that the base was ridiculously huge though.

There were a few other plot holes and wtf moments/concepts that kind of irked me a little, but overall it was a great episode and I'd watch it again.

Two words: SCIENCE FICTION.

JGR wrote:There were a few other plot holes and wtf moments/concepts that kind of irked me a little

Yawn. This is the sort of response that undermines the production of solid science *fiction* on our television screens.

Does it matter that it was unrealistic? It's a story about an alien travelling around time in a Police Box that's "bigger on the inside".

Unbelievable rubbish spouted.

Dave Worley wrote:Yawn. This is the sort of response that undermines the production of solid science *fiction* on our television screens.

Does it matter that it was unrealistic? It's a story about an alien travelling around time in a Police Box that's "bigger on the inside".

Unbelievable rubbish spouted.

JGR wrote:...but overall it was a great episode and I'd watch it again.

There's a difference between unrealistic and cringe-worthy or inconsistent. I see your point however. (Looking at sci-fi from an engineer's or critic's perspective ends up rather a habit though).