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Post by Pyoro » 28 Aug 2017 19:17

MGPs are just too fast on the straight. Impossible to overtake them with the classic maneuvers for Spa or Monza. The only hope Ferrari has is somehow beat them in qualifying, then hope they can keep them behind.

But even just somewhat keeping up with the MGPs on such a high speed course is pretty good. Frankly, I don't think the Ferrari is good enough for the title this season. If Vettel does it nonetheless, all the more credit to him, but I don't think it'll be enough, unless Hamilton has a lot of bad luck for the rest of the season.

But next one? Who knows.

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Post by Chrill » 29 Aug 2017 21:50

Pilot wrote:Vettel was on a tyre two compounds softer/faster, yet couldn't overtake Hamilton in the last 15 laps. Of course, after a while the Ultra's would have gone off, but it's not really a good sign if Vettel can't pass in the early stages of his stint despite being right behind, surely?

It could also suggest that Mercedes are hiding their pace for Monza, or maybe I'm just reading in to it a little too much :lol: After all though, Hamilton kept Vettel over 1 second behind comfortably throughout, even when on the slower tyre, so it just doesn't quite sit right with me.
Not sure if you followed practice before Spa, but for some reason the difference between compounds was really quite small here. Vettel probably did have an advantage but not for long. His chance was after the restart but Hamilton handled that masterfully. After that the dirty air compromised, if not eradicated, the tyre advantage Vettel held.
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Post by Chrill » 12 Sep 2017 06:15

With so much drama in the LBC it's kinda hard being Snoop D O Double G but I, somehow someway, keep coming up with funky a** sh** like every single day.

Or, for F1 purposes:
With so much drama in the F1 silly season, it's kinda hard being Ch R I double L but I, somehow someway, keep creating these rumoured drivers posts like every single year.





Highlights include:
Toro Rosso-Honda, McLaren-Renault, Sainz to Renault as part of the bargain. Possibly even as soon as Malaysia, with Alonso to remain at McLaren-Renault
Kubica to Williams or Sauber
Ferrari secured Raikkonen for another year
Massa is flirting with Formula E



Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport:
44. Lewis Hamilton (link)
77. Valtteri Bottas (link)

Scuderia Ferrari:
5. Sebastian Vettel (link)
7. Kimi Räikkönen (link)

Red Bull Racing:
3. Daniel Ricciardo (link)
33. Max Verstappen (link)

Force India F1 Team:
31. Esteban Ocon
11. Sergio Perez (link)
18. Lance Stroll (link)
?. Lucas Auer (link)

Williams Martini Racing:
14. Fernando Alonso (link)
18. Lance Stroll (link)
19. Felipe Massa (link)
?. Luca Ghiotto (link)
?. Robert Kubica (link)

Scuderia Toro Rosso: (Honda?)
26. Daniil Kvyat (link)
55. Carlos Sainz Jr. (link)
?. Nobuharu Matsushita (link)
?. Pierre Gasly (link)

Haas F1 Team:
8. Romain Grosjean (link)
20. Kevin Magnussen (link)

Renault Sport Formula One Team:
27. Nico Hülkenberg
14. Fernando Alonso (link)
55. Carlos Sainz Jr. (link)
?. Oliver Rowland (link)
?. Robert Kubica (link)

McLaren Honda Formula 1 Team: (Renault?)
2. Stoffel Vandoorne (link)
14. Fernando Alonso (link)
55. Carlos Sainz Jr. (link)

Sauber F1 Team:
9. Marcus Ericsson (link)
?. Charles Leclerc (link)
?. Robert Kubica (link)
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Post by Doorslammer » 15 Sep 2017 09:50

Glad Palmer is off. What a waste of a seat that was.
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Post by Chrill » 18 Sep 2017 06:58

Doorslammer wrote:Glad Palmer is off. What a waste of a seat that was.
Aaaand he's P6.

What a race. I'm a Ferrari man through and through, I was shouting at my TV at that first corner of the race. Oh my.

Still a great race, fatigue setting in for several drivers and mechanical mishaps taking out even more. In the end, only 11 drivers finished proper (plus Wehrlein a distant 2 laps down). Palmer in P6, Sainz P4. Ricciardo, P2, almost DNFed too with an ailing gearbox.

Hamilton probably decided this title battle now. I struggle to see how Vettel can get those points back. One DNF for the Brit, that's what we need, and it's all back in play.
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Post by Pilot » 18 Sep 2017 08:07

Only way I see Hamilton retiring at the minute is if someone crashes into him, that Merc seems rather reliable this season.

Perhaps Ferrari could use Kimi as a sacrifice :lol:

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Post by Chrill » 18 Sep 2017 13:05

Pilot wrote:Perhaps Ferrari could use Kimi as a sacrifice :lol:
That's some Flavio Briatore bulls*** :lol:
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Post by Doorslammer » 18 Sep 2017 13:12

Chrill wrote:
Doorslammer wrote:Glad Palmer is off. What a waste of a seat that was.
Aaaand he's P6.
Very much too little too late. The last two years have been an utter humdrum of not a lot happening at the back of the grid.
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Post by Pyoro » 18 Sep 2017 13:29

I'm just disappointed for HUL. He always seems to have bad luck when things go his way.

As for Vettel, well, bit of bad luck but could (should, perhaps) in that position also have risked less. Stupid move.

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Post by Transportman » 18 Sep 2017 18:53

Pyoro wrote:As for Vettel, well, bit of bad luck but could (should, perhaps) in that position also have risked less. Stupid move.
Stupid move is a bit of an understatement.

Also, that tweet from Ferrari after the incident, wording it in such a way that they blame Verstappen, while it really are the Ferrari's that were to blame for the incident.
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Post by Chrill » 19 Sep 2017 06:49

Vettel did the right thing. Kimi did the right thing. Verstappen certainly did too. It just so happened that all together, three rights made a wrong. And Vettel was the one who could have avoided it, however he would have to know Raikkonen was on the inside. Had Raikkonen not been there, Vettel would have pushed Verstappen to the edge a bit more, then entered turn 1 side by side and probably come out first through corners 1-3. Raikkonen would have been squeezed, maybe P5 behind Alonso and Hamilton. Ricciardo down into P6. That would've been it.

Rain didn't affect it, this would have happened anyway with the great start by Raikkonen.
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Post by Chrill » 19 Sep 2017 13:41

Just to double post, here are the latest drivers for the 2018 grid, with sources for both confirmed and speculated drivers updated:

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Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport:
44. Lewis Hamilton (link)
77. Valtteri Bottas (link)

Scuderia Ferrari:
5. Sebastian Vettel (link)
7. Kimi Räikkönen (link)

Red Bull Racing:
3. Daniel Ricciardo (link)
33. Max Verstappen (link)

Force India F1 Team:
11. Sergio Perez (link)
31. Esteban Ocon (link)

Williams Martini Racing:
9. Marcus Ericsson (link)
14. Fernando Alonso (link)
18. Lance Stroll (link)
19. Felipe Massa (link)
30. Jolyon Palmer (link)
?. Luca Ghiotto (link)
?. Robert Kubica (link)

Scuderia Toro Rosso: (Honda)
26. Daniil Kvyat (link)
?. Nobuharu Matsushita (link)
?. Pierre Gasly (link)

Haas F1 Team:
8. Romain Grosjean (link)
20. Kevin Magnussen (link)

Renault Sport Formula One Team:
27. Nico Hülkenberg (link)
55. Carlos Sainz Jr. (link)

McLaren Formula 1 Team: (Renault)
2. Stoffel Vandoorne (link)
14. Fernando Alonso (link)

Sauber F1 Team:
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?. Charles Leclerc (link)
?. Antonio Giovinazzi (link)
?. Robert Kubica (link)
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Re: The Formula One Topic

Post by Pilot » 19 Sep 2017 15:23

Chrill wrote:
Pilot wrote:Perhaps Ferrari could use Kimi as a sacrifice :lol:
That's some Flavio Briatore bulls*** :lol:
Hey, someone had to suggest it :lol:

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Post by Pyoro » 19 Sep 2017 16:50

In a plot twist, MGP orders Bottas to take out Kimi so Kimi can't take out Hamilton. Ferrari then hires Sauber to crash Hamilton while being lapped, but MGP counters with trading their engines to McLaren to have them take out the Saubers first.

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Post by Pilot » 19 Sep 2017 18:51

Then a plot twist to the plot twist, Massa "accidentally" crashes into Vettel, and Hamilton wins the championship :mrgreen:

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Post by Chrill » 20 Sep 2017 07:09

Pyoro wrote:In a plot twist, MGP orders Bottas to take out Kimi so Kimi can't take out Hamilton. Ferrari then hires Sauber to crash Hamilton while being lapped, but MGP counters with trading their engines to McLaren to have them take out the Saubers first.
So what you're telling me is that Ericsson will decide the championship, or Wehrlein will betray his Mercedes buddies? :mrgreen:
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Post by Pyoro » 20 Sep 2017 14:29

Chrill wrote:So what you're telling me is that Ericsson will decide the championship, or Wehrlein will betray his Mercedes buddies? :mrgreen:
It'll be a huge human drama.

Maybe there'll even be blood. And romance. When the two Force India drivers publicly reconcile in a hot kissing scene, now that they can both be on the podium since everybody else is out of the races.

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Post by Transportman » 26 Sep 2017 16:56

Kvyat has been benched for two races by his team, and will be replaced by Pierre Gasly.
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Post by Chrill » 28 Sep 2017 07:39

Yes. He has. It's about time.

Well, they have not announced that it is indeed for two races only, but the coming two race weekends in F1, Gasly is free. The third weekend clashes with Super Formula, so we'll see if they want to let Gasly run there and slot Kvyat back into the car.

I'd prefer Felix Rosenqvist, but then again I am Swedish.
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Post by Transportman » 01 Oct 2017 19:28

Really a great race today, lot's of overtaking, a great last edition of the Malaysian GP.
Chrill wrote:Yes. He has. It's about time.

Well, they have not announced that it is indeed for two races only, but the coming two race weekends in F1, Gasly is free. The third weekend clashes with Super Formula, so we'll see if they want to let Gasly run there and slot Kvyat back into the car.

I'd prefer Felix Rosenqvist, but then again I am Swedish.
Maybe he can fill in during the USA GP, while Gasly is doing his race in the Super Formula.
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