Does "division of capacities for cargoes" really work?

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Does "division of capacities for cargoes" really work?

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This is a question to developers and .grf designers.

In TTD, cargo has a specified weight (see http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php ... faultProps ), i.e. 1 ton of iron ore equals 2 crates of goods, or 4 bags of mail or 16 passengers, etc., e.g. when regularly refitting a vehicle.

Now, did this really work in the past? I mean, w/o using CB15 explicitly? Documentation-wise it should, but in recently tested versions of TTDPatch I can´t see the expected outcome. E.g., when refitting a vehicle of 30 tons capacity (lumber, iron ore, ...) to "goods", I´m getting 60 crates (that´s OK), but refitting to "mail" results in 60 bags which is wrong, same goes for livestock and others.

Any comments, advice, ...?

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Re: Does "division of capacities for cargoes" really work?

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michael blunck wrote:This is a question to developers and .grf designers.

In TTD, cargo has a specified weight (see http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php ... faultProps ), i.e. 1 ton of iron ore equals 2 crates of goods, or 4 bags of mail or 16 passengers, etc., e.g. when regularly refitting a vehicle.
1 ton of regular cargo = 2 crates of goods, 2 bags of mail or 4 passengers. There's no relationship between the cargo's weight parameter and the refitted capacity.
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PikkaBird wrote: 1 ton of regular cargo = 2 crates of goods, 2 bags of mail or 4 passengers. There's no relationship between the cargo's weight parameter and the refitted capacity.
Then, what means "Unlike regular refitted capacities, the return value is not subject to the usual division of capacities for cargoes [...]"?
http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php ... allback_15_ and where are your numbers above come from? Is there any mentioning in the Wiki?

I remember this having been discussed between George and me but ATM, I really don´t remember and I can´t locate the old mails. :|

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michael blunck wrote:and where are your numbers above come from?
The multiplication of passengers, mail and goods are a hangover from original TTD.
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So, would it make sense to get an agreement on cargo parameters between the different railway sets? Or are we going to work out totally different numbers for CB15 usage?

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Agreement on which parameters? And what exactly is a "cargo parameter" anyway?
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DaleStan wrote:Agreement on which parameters? And what exactly is a "cargo parameter" anyway?
Well, properties, in TTDPatch terms.

But nevermind. Meanwhile I´ve taken some random numbers.

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