Diagonall crossings and rails under tunnels

Matrix666lb · Post by **Matrix666lb** » 15 May 2007 13:28

I just want to ask how much of you would like to see this feature in OTTD.. I know this topic was mentioned, but all of them were without a poll - which allow developers how important the problem is. Hera are my arguments for featuring this in OTTD:
- no blocking for: buildings, other way's of transportation
- you are sparing a lot of money, because diagonall rails leaves a shorter way to the target, when you need to build a crossin or a bridge by them or over them
- in multiplayer - makes one more cheating possibility less, makes players unable to block whole map from building networks
- looks nice, and realistic

What do you think??

boekabart · Post by **boekabart** » 15 May 2007 13:45

Diagonal rails under bridges is firmly in the nightlies and has been for a while, don't think that needs to be discussed anymore.

Diagonal level crossings: well, someone needs to make the sprites for a start! I don't think (but don't know) that it'll be a big coding challenge after that.

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 15 May 2007 13:58

diagonal level crossings are in the miniIN

Maedhros · Post by **Maedhros** » 15 May 2007 14:36

boekabart wrote:Diagonal level crossings: well, someone needs to make the sprites for a start! I don't think (but don't know) that it'll be a big coding challenge after that.

I've done it before, but I've never been entirely satisfied with it. Maybe after my exams finish I'll try and get it working again...

Matrix666lb · Post by **Matrix666lb** » 15 May 2007 14:40

I know that there are minins, nightlies etc.. but in this case i mean to get this future in the official OTTD releases, stable and mostly bug free version.

belugas · Post by **belugas** » 15 May 2007 15:00

Matrix666lb wrote:I know that there are minins, nightlies etc.. but in this case i mean to get this future in the official OTTD releases, stable and mostly bug free version.

well... nightlies lead to official releases. And guess what : we need users to play with nightlies to make sure it will be be mostly bug free ( if such a think ever exists...).

Furthermore, i think Maedhros just said he will give it another shot...

CMircea · Post by **CMircea** » 15 May 2007 19:37

belugas wrote: well... nightlies lead to official releases. And guess what : we need users to play with nightlies to make sure it will be be mostly bug free ( if such a think ever exists...).

Furthermore, i think Maedhros just said he will give it another shot...

You know what, I think that there should be weeklies, compiled every week from the most stable nightly.
I barely notice bugs in nightlies, and there's a 90% chance that it's fixed in the next revision, so weeklies might get more new players, since most just get the latest stable and then come to make suggestions that have been in nightlies for some time.

Post by **Rubidium** » 15 May 2007 20:07

And how do we determine which nightly is the best?

Post by **peter1138** » 15 May 2007 20:40

How about... no.

l_Blue_l · Post by **l_Blue_l** » 15 May 2007 21:10

weekly would give little to no benefit to the development of OpenTTD it would only take up a lot of the developers time.

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 15 May 2007 21:15

take the sunday nightly as weekly nightly

Post by **Dave** » 15 May 2007 21:47

peter1138 wrote:How about... no.

Succinct, as ever, Peter

Post by **peter1138** » 15 May 2007 22:08

Dave Worley wrote:Succinct, as ever, Peter

I learn from the true master of subtly, your honour.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 15 May 2007 22:09

boekabart wrote:Diagonal level crossings: well, someone needs to make the sprites for a start! I don't think (but don't know) that it'll be a big coding challenge after that.

No sprites are needed, see how it's done in the MiniIN/Maedhros' previous patch.

boekabart · Post by **boekabart** » 16 May 2007 06:01

Born Acorn wrote:
boekabart wrote:Diagonal level crossings: well, someone needs to make the sprites for a start! I don't think (but don't know) that it'll be a big coding challenge after that.
No sprites are needed, see how it's done in the MiniIN/Maedhros' previous patch.

A link, anyone? Is it done by drawing the rails over the normal road tile? How about the lights?

Sacro · Post by **Sacro** » 16 May 2007 06:33

boekabart wrote:
Born Acorn wrote:
boekabart wrote:Diagonal level crossings: well, someone needs to make the sprites for a start! I don't think (but don't know) that it'll be a big coding challenge after that.
No sprites are needed, see how it's done in the MiniIN/Maedhros' previous patch.
A link, anyone? Is it done by drawing the rails over the normal road tile? How about the lights?

http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=26584

boekabart · Post by **boekabart** » 16 May 2007 07:13

Sacro wrote:
Born Acorn wrote:Maedhros' previous patch.
http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=26584

OK... so what is the status with this patch, is it being maintained for future inclusion in trunk? I'm not against, actually, although I don't think anyone should ever build high-speed train lines with level crossings. And I cannot believe there is no penalty to trains that collide with road vehicles: at least there should be a 'breakdown' after the collision.

RainierWatcher · Post by **RainierWatcher** » 16 May 2007 07:52

boekabart wrote: And I cannot believe there is no penalty to trains that collide with road vehicles: at least there should be a 'breakdown' after the collision.

I think there is such a feature in TTDP, but I'm not sure.

Making the lights on the level crossing come on before the train is only one square away would also be good.

Brianetta · Post by **Brianetta** » 16 May 2007 10:33

Born Acorn wrote:No sprites are needed, see how it's done in the MiniIN/Maedhros' previous patch.

Didn't it need these new sprites?
http://www.tt-forums.net/files/diagonal ... s4_669.png

Maedhros · Post by **Maedhros** » 16 May 2007 11:05

Brianetta wrote:Didn't it need these new sprites?
http://www.tt-forums.net/files/diagonal ... s4_669.png

In the end, no, although it does need some new sprites. It uses new graphics for the rails and the crossing lights but it draws the rails on top of the existing roads.

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