Diagonal railroad crossings

uzurpator · Post by **uzurpator** » 23 Jul 2006 20:51

I humbly suggest ability to build crossings like below

Post by **Dave** » 23 Jul 2006 21:02

Heh... that's better than my crossing and that was already done for me... Why can you draw so well?

maquinista · Post by **maquinista** » 23 Jul 2006 22:26

uzurpator wrote:I humbly suggest ability to build crossings like below

Good idea, but I think that it is not eassy to programing.

Redirect Left · Post by **Redirect Left** » 23 Jul 2006 23:28

As far as im aware this is not possible, or if it is, very hard to code into TTDPatch.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » 24 Jul 2006 00:14

Not possible even with eis_os' new pathfinder?

Redirect Left · Post by **Redirect Left** » 24 Jul 2006 00:15

Snail wrote:Not possible even with eis_os' new pathfinder?

That might be the oonly exception, if it iss complete, and works, it might become a possibility

Ramshill · Post by **Ramshill** » 24 Jul 2006 08:13

maybe road vehicles could treat it like two crossings (one for each diagonal bit) while trains just ignore it (more accidents!).

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 24 Jul 2006 08:49

We would need 4 extra bits, and I am not sure if PBS would understand it. I don't think we need a new pathfinder for it however ....

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 24 Jul 2006 08:56

Given that such a diagonal crossing would be more dangerous even in real life, I´m not sure if there´s a need to endanger health and life of our precious customers in an unnecessary way.

regards
Michael

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 24 Jul 2006 09:17

I know a lot places where industry lines cross diagonal the roads... (however it's not high traffic) anyway I have put it on my big todo list...

Toni Babelony · Post by **Toni Babelony** » 24 Jul 2006 09:41

Looks really nice! I know a lot of places in Japan with really heavy urban traffic where the road crosses about eight (!) tracks diagonally. So it's not completely unrealistic...

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 24 Jul 2006 10:18

eis_os wrote:I know a lot places where industry lines cross diagonal the roads... (however it's not high traffic)

I know a few places too, but then with double-track frequent passenger-trains.

btw, if this feature is gonna be implemented, what about a double track crosing a road? There'll be a tile of road which has two railway tracks on it. Would that also be possible?

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 24 Jul 2006 10:35

No, there is only one PBS State, and A LOT other stuff would fail aswell.

Post by **Dave** » 24 Jul 2006 20:07

Regarding realism...:

Most lines don't cross the road at a perfect 90 degree angle...

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 24 Jul 2006 20:09

Most landscapes aren't built up from tiles either

Redirect Left · Post by **Redirect Left** » 24 Jul 2006 20:12

Purno wrote:Most landscapes aren't built up from tiles either

Excellent point

Post by **Dave** » 24 Jul 2006 20:25

I wasn't trying to ply a case for the diagonal crossing, I was merely correcting the view that Level Crossings were dangerous when at an angle, which is often not the case.

m3henry has a picture of one somewhere.

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 24 Jul 2006 20:44

I wasn't trying to ply a case for the diagonal crossing, I was merely correcting the view that Level Crossings were dangerous when at an angle, which is often not the case.

Well, yes. Level crossings may be dangerous because of many reasons.

And yes, "diagonal" crossings may be especially unsafe because truck drivers cannot easily check the rail track from the direction of the acute angle. That´s one of the reasons why building such crossings are being avoided today and why they´re being reconstructed in many European countries which is, BTW, part of the working programme of the European Commission DG Energy and Transport´s High Level Group "Road Safety".

Nevertheless, as we´re speaking about TTDPatch (and not OTTD) that will be an optional new feature, eventually.

regards
Michael

Post by **Dave** » 24 Jul 2006 20:47

Most urban crossings in England are being phased out all together, AFAIA.

Csaboka · Post by **Csaboka** » 25 Jul 2006 07:27

The train stop where I get on the train going to Debrecen is actually a diagonal level crossing. Yes, you read it right - the train actually stops in a diagonal level crossing to pick up passengers, and the car drivers must wait at the lights until everyone gets on and the train starts again.

It's nowhere near to high traffic, though.

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