Swedish Houses [Version 1.1 released 06/06/10]

[Chrill]

Irwe, I spy a perfect rendition of Wenner-Gren Center. Yum! Also, yes, Ullevi looks a bit tiny... Turning it into a 3x3 industry could perhaps do the trick..? What is safe to say is that the walls must reach at least twice that height, the actual Ullevi is just massive!!

[DJ Nekkid]

if you plan to use "the industry trick", you might want to add a conditional skip sprite" if you use a industry ID that is used by for example firs or ECS...

[juval]

yea and if you do that then we wont have big ullevis in every city..

[Irwe]

Yes, but it isn't drawn entirely from scratch is it? A quick comparison reveals that some parts have indeed been taken from the original IKEA graphics, which for your own personal use, is totally okey with me!

Yes some parts (A LOT) has been directly taken from your IKEA and I didn't thought it matter so much since I thought your INFRA set was kind of dead. But now when I see it isn't dead and you have returned to the world of TTD I can understand your consurn about me drawing sprites that are somewhat like yours. You probably heard this a hundred times but I'm sorry for your loss and about the so called stolen trees, I could replace all trees in my set with my own ones if you want?

Funny thing is that I started on this set after seeing the work you have created with for set

Turning it into a 3x3 industry could perhaps do the trick..?

Or.. we could skip this huge hard-to-draw-right stadium and replace it with the Old (new) Ullevi located just next to the huge Ullevi.

The picture of it is under construction but I couldn't find a better picture of it

[andythenorth]

If you do draw a larger stadium, I have a use for it in FIRS....

I'm not sure it *should* be an industry, but it's the only practical way to implement it today, and it won't do any harm

[Chrill]

Irwe, if we're looking for a stadium on a grand scale, go for the Swedbank Area being built to replace Råsunda. Nya Gamla Ullevi is mediocre in comparison



More pics:
http://www.arenastaden.se/files/images/ ... rena01.jpg
http://www.arenastaden.se/files/images/ ... isual1.jpg

[SAC]

Yes some parts (A LOT) has been directly taken from your IKEA and I didn't thought it matter so much since I thought your INFRA set was kind of dead. But now when I see it isn't dead and you have returned to the world of TTD I can understand your consurn about me drawing sprites that are somewhat like yours. You probably heard this a hundred times but I'm sorry for your loss and about the so called stolen trees, I could replace all trees in my set with my own ones if you want?

The work on INFRA has never been dead! Put on hold due to real life issues at times though, but that's something completely different!

As for the trees, even though no license has been created for any of the stuff that has been released under my name, the same still applies; feel free to use them in your set, but add proper credits of course!

Now I'm going to take a closer look at your "Swedish Houses"...

[Irwe]

If you do draw a larger stadium, I have a use for it in FIRS....

Well I like the idea of making a smaller modern stadium rather then making a larger one, but if FIRS needs a large stadium I could try to help you with it

Irwe, if we're looking for a stadium on a grand scale, go for the Swedbank Area being built to replace Råsunda. Nya Gamla Ullevi is mediocre in comparison

That one hasn't been built yet, or has it? Seems like there only is picture of it on models and such on. But it does look nice indeed. It's roof covered during winter? That could be cool in this set! Above snowline there is roof and below snowline there are no roof.

The work on INFRA has never been dead! Put on hold due to real life issues at times though, but that's something completely different!

As for the trees, even though no license has been created for any of the stuff that has been released under my name, the same still applies; feel free to use them in your set, but add proper credits of course!

Now I'm going to take a closer look at your "Swedish Houses"...

Yes your trees are already mentioned in the readme and credited to you ofcourse

May I suggest making your set under the GPL liscence. Then you'll be able to use everything from other sets under the same liscence. For example this set is under GPL and so is FIRS and we can trade ideas and sprites from each other without any difficulties
Also if you by any chance won't continue on your set, someone else could just continue on your set where you left of.

[Chrill]

That one hasn't been built yet, or has it? Seems like there only is picture of it on models and such on. But it does look nice indeed. It's roof covered during winter? That could be cool in this set! Above snowline there is roof and below snowline there are no roof.

Exactly. The roof can be moved, so that during rainy days, the match is played with a roof

May I suggest making your set under the GPL liscence. Then you'll be able to use everything from other sets under the same liscence. For example this set is under GPL and so is FIRS and we can trade ideas and sprites from each other without any difficulties
Also if you by any chance won't continue on your set, someone else could just continue on your set where you left of.

If I know SAC correctly, she'd not want someone else to touch INFRA before she considers it releasable

[SAC]

May I suggest making your set under the GPL liscence. Then you'll be able to use everything from other sets under the same liscence. For example this set is under GPL and so is FIRS and we can trade ideas and sprites from each other without any difficulties
Also if you by any chance won't continue on your set, someone else could just continue on your set where you left of.

If I know SAC correctly, she'd not want someone else to touch INFRA before she considers it releasable

Chrill just said it all!



The thing is, I'm working on soo many projects when it comes to INFRA! I never planned for all of this to begin with, but as time went by my game went from TTDLX to something... well, completely different! Except from the lighthouse I believe everything else in my game is customized - graphics wise!

And as far as GPL licenses concerns, I have a habit of "picking up" other artists work and sort of "improve it" for my own personal game play experience, (no offense to anyone), but none of that are part of INFRA - unless I have requested permission of course! The problem is, seeing what I've been doing with my INFRA set during the years along with my own personal game play, I have hardly any idea who some of the original artists are! But when the time comes to release that sort of thing, I'll investigate to the best of my ability!

Still, I prefer to have INFRA released before I'm ready to let others use my graphics for other purposes than purely personal...

And with that said I'm already "working" on some of your buildings for personal use in my own game...

[Irwe]

May I suggest making your set under the GPL liscence. Then you'll be able to use everything from other sets under the same liscence. For example this set is under GPL and so is FIRS and we can trade ideas and sprites from each other without any difficulties
Also if you by any chance won't continue on your set, someone else could just continue on your set where you left of.

If I know SAC correctly, she'd not want someone else to touch INFRA before she considers it releasable

Chrill just said it all!



The thing is, I'm working on soo many projects when it comes to INFRA! I never planned for all of this to begin with, but as time went by my game went from TTDLX to something... well, completely different! Except from the lighthouse I believe everything else in my game is customized - graphics wise!

And as far as GPL licenses concerns, I have a habit of "picking up" other artists work and sort of "improve it" for my own personal game play experience, (no offense to anyone), but none of that are part of INFRA - unless I have requested permission of course! The problem is, seeing what I've been doing with my INFRA set during the years along with my own personal game play, I have hardly any idea who some of the original artists are! But when the time comes to release that sort of thing, I'll investigate to the best of my ability!

Still, I prefer to have INFRA released before I'm ready to let others use my graphics for other purposes than purely personal...

And with that said I'm already "working" on some of your buildings for personal use in my own game...

Allright I understand that you want to release your set first before

You can ask me for any of my sprites and I can send them to you and you can use them in your set how much you want, with proper credits ofcourse

Good luck with your INFRA set, I'm looking foreward to it

[Kogut]

In Red*Start stations topic set I found very interesting plaza, matching swedish houses set:

http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=839417#p839417

Whatmore:

Generally you may extract any parts of my graphics (I mean the png files, anything that is currently online), if you credit me in your set. If you want instead the "sources" (e.g. to save you time), you may of course contact me, if I have time I will send you the parts you want, or even more.

[Chrill]

That really doesn't fit with the style Irwe paints in, sorry

[Irwe]

In Red*Start stations topic set I found very interesting plaza, matching swedish houses set:

That really doesn't fit with the style Irwe paints in, sorry

Indeed, I don't think it will fit this set. But if people do want those placas with my building they could always wait for the Red Star stations set to be released and use it with this set

[Kogut]

bumpy bump

[Irwe]

bumpy bump

I have noticed that to, have no idea what that is. I've seen it on other buildings aswell. Maybe as has some knowledge about it.

[Ammler]

I would guess, it has something to do with your bounding boxes, as you use the same size for everything or how did you crop the stadium? I investigated a bit deeper, it is the cropping of the sprites, this is the mask I used for OpenGFX stadium:

stadiumcrop.png (4.35 KiB) Viewed 2542 times

From: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ope ... tadium.xcf

as you see, you need a bit more for east and west sprite then just the ground sprite. I never coded a house or station or something with bounding boxes, but this seems to me the error.

Also please link to your sources from the release thread, I didn't find those and decoded the grf.

Greets
Ammler

[Irwe]

I just croped it like as said, I really don't know anything about how things are done beyond drawing sprites
But yes it's something we have to take care of in a not so distant future.

Anyway lets show of some more buildings!
I've done another office building. This one is based on one of the "Hötorgsskaporna" located in Stockholm.

[Zephyris]

Nice, the windows look excellent...

[Irwe]

Nice, the windows look excellent...

Thanks, but I do think the building is to bright.. I might make it a bit darker.