#wwottdgd calles grf authors / gfx'ers for help - (UPDATE)

[dihedral]

the toll booth has been ejoyed very much on the map-test game by Ammler and Phazorx...

though there was the question if it was possible to add a little logic to the grf, which would only replace the transmitter if it's not part of an airport...

i have no idea how grf's work and what is possible and what not... just poping in the question

other than that - it's great

[AntBUK]

Right, it would seem that I have to change some colours as I seem to have used the explosion colours twice. The lighting worked better then I expected anyway, and that scrap of NFO code will help me a bit at least

I now have work to do

Edit: Looking at TTDPatch GRF wiki, Action 04 defines names...

[rabbit67890]

Ok, here's what I've got so far

newfountain.png

I'm going to put some more people in and make it a PCX later, I just want to know what people think for now.

Critics please note, this is my first attempt

It should look brilliant when put into the game

it dosent look like a fountain

[DaleStan]

Would somebody please help me learn enough NFO coding to make that PCX file replace fountains and add parameters to change between Eyecandy, Accepting/producing pax, accepting pax and food and producing pax?

Tell us what parts of the wiki you've read, tell us what parts you don't understand, and then maybe we can do something productive.

[LordAzamath]

Right, it would seem that I have to change some colours as I seem to have used the explosion colours twice. The lighting worked better then I expected anyway, and that scrap of NFO code will help me a bit at least

I now have work to do

Edit: Looking at TTDPatch GRF wiki, Action 04 defines names...

By the explosion colours you mean the water cycle? It was me. I think it looked better. Anyway you can change this if you don't like it. I also added little animations to one preson and to tat flag?? it is a flag yes?

[AntBUK]

Tell us what parts of the wiki you've read, tell us what parts you don't understand, and then maybe we can do something productive.

GRF Actions Detailed, Actions 4, 8 and 0 (houses) and to be honest not much made sense, I have however managed to get a partially working NFO and GRF thanks to NFO Renum.

it dosent look like a fountain

True, I have weird names for my files. Its easier for me and will be renamed later.

By the explosion colours you mean the water cycle? It was me. I think it looked better. Anyway you can change this if you don't like it. I also added little animations to one preson and to tat flag?? it is a flag yes?

Flag? What flag? There's a table (its dodgy) with explosion cycle colours which I'm going to change. The lights around the top of the square are supposed to be water cycle for effect.

[LordAzamath]

Flag? What flag? There's a table (its dodgy) with explosion cycle colours which I'm going to change. The lights around the top of the square are supposed to be water cycle for effect.

Are you talking about pcx modified by me or the original?

Ok, I see it's table. The second thing is that I know what is in that pcx. I MYSELF modified it and put the outcome here. Ok. To not make you think that you made so much disgraceful things in that image, here is the list of changes, made by me

• I removed the whole pavement and replaced it with transparency (#0000FF). Practically it was a bugfix.
  I changed the lights at the top, to make it look more fatter http://www.postimees.ee/foto/2/1/699124 ... ecf0_1.jpg
  I made little modifications to people dressing, haircut and shape
  I made little blinkers to that table.

[dihedral]

it dosent look like a fountain

it REPLACES the FOUNTAIN in a town with something else!!

[Phazorx]

Here is another request for graphics update

TrueBrain made working to some extent snow in temperate patch, which would be very nice to use on that map, so Alps can look like Alps should look :)

however snow tiles are colored for arctic climate and are done in different color palette:


It would be nice if someone would comeup with replacement grf with more appropriate looking partial snow tiles (perhaps based on Alpine)

The patch can be found here

[Roujin]

i'm on it. I don't know about .grf encoding, but i'll draw the sprites - 33% done (slight snow)

@someone experienced with grf encoding, one question: should i just post a pcx with the part from trg1r.pcx i changed, or the whole modified file?

[XeryusTC]

You can ask MB if you could use some of his sprites from the alpine climate.

[Roujin]

ok, finished.

i blended the original grass tiles with the partly snow tiles.

someone try to encode it?


edit: this is just a part of trg1r.pcx, if i should post the whole trg1r.pcx with the changes, say so.

[XeryusTC]

I can code it, I just need to know if Phazorx wants it as a replacement newgrf or as a normal grf where it will just be a bunch of sprites and he has to do the functionality code himself.

[Roujin]

i encoded it myself now, back to trg1r.grf - no newgrf (wouldn't know how to do that), just overwriting the old sprites. Of course, snow climate looks weird with this now...

to use it, place in /data folder and overwrite the existing trg1r.grf


edit: removed due to request

You cant distribute trgr1.grf, modified or not. It is one of the core graphics files, that must not be distributed through this site.

[Leviath.NL]

This grf only contains the temperate snow sprite. It replaces the snow tiles in trg1r.grf when you are playing the temperate climate. It does NOT have any functionality, it is just a replacement grf. (and practise for me )

edit: grf added
edit2: little typo in the name.

[LordAzamath]

i encoded it myself now, back to trg1r.grf - no newgrf (wouldn't know how to do that), just overwriting the old sprites. Of course, snow climate looks weird with this now...

to use it, place in /data folder and overwrite the existing trg1r.grf

And you want every player on wwottfg to download it as an extra to already the #coop package? If I was you, I would have made a grd out of it and then grd->grf'ed. There are some more tools in grfcodec folder, than grfcodec it self you know., it could actually make the size of downloadable data much less, than it's now,

The modified pcx (and indexed)
meetingplace.pcx
(1.72 KB) Downloaded 8 times

And finally the very basic grf, where somebody can start adding the parameters etc. (I hope AntBUK will get a chance this time )
meetingplace.grf
(744 Bytes) Downloaded 2 times

Note the sizes compared to 2,3Mb
Lord

[richk67]

You cant distribute trgr1.grf, modified or not. It is one of the core graphics files, that must not be distributed through this site.

Also, the important thing with MB's sprites is that they are *original* graphics, not just recoloured existing graphics. This is important as a simple recolouring/combining of copyright material still is covered by the original copyright. (Its a "derivative work" in copyright parlance.)

Oh... and credit where credit is due... I wrote the Snow In Temperate patch waaaaaaaaaay back. I think TB may have resurrected it, and brought it up to date. Note my patch uses MB's sprites with permission, and does not mess up the Arctic climate to do it. I included it in MiniIN (with MB's permission to distribute the snow sprites).

[AntBUK]

This is going to sound extremely bad, but how the hell do you get a GRFCodec compatible pallet in GIMP or PSP8!? I even set my own pallet but that's gone AWOL and didn't really work anyway.

[Roujin]

You cant distribute trgr1.grf, modified or not. It is one of the core graphics files, that must not be distributed through this site.

You are very right. Posting that whole file was a sincere mistake - file removed.
It's really a shame with these copyright issues... so my altering of original sprites is completely unacceptable aswell? Seems i wasted my time GIMPing yesterday

(i wished they would release their old jewel to the public. who holds the rights right now anyways? chris sawyer himself? as a child, he was a legend for me, if he had given up the rights to the public after, say, 10 years or so, he would have been truly legendary )

well Leviath.NL seems to have a working replacement grf that's no derivative work (haven't tested it), so the stuff I made is not needed anyways, i guess...

[DaleStan]

This is going to sound extremely bad, but how the hell do you get a GRFCodec compatible pallet

You decode any of the cannon TTD files and use the palette from that file.