where does these money come from?

SmatZ · Post by **SmatZ** » 10 Oct 2006 20:58

Hello, can anyone explain me where does AI get money from (see image) when:

- there is not Iron Ore accepted
- there is no service accepting Iron Ore

There was a Steel Factory when the track was built, but it disappeared (probably it was closed)

Tested in 0.4.8 and r6616, this happens in both
(couldn't upload savegame - 'Tried to uplad empty file' - it is 6MB long...)

Thanks!

edit: changed screenshot - lower resolution, English language

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 10 Oct 2006 21:06

Does the money show up in the AI's balance sheet?
If not, don't worry about it.

And in the future, it's helpful to change to English language before taking screenshots.

SmatZ · Post by **SmatZ** » 10 Oct 2006 21:23

Thank you, DaleStan!

The money doesn't show in computer's budget.
But anyway, the computer thinks the train has income, so he doesn't sell it - although it looses in reality. (I use 'original' AI)
Should I post this as a bug, or the old AI is not in development anymore?
(well, there are many other problems with AI ... so I don't suppose I should file this one)

The screenshot is changed now.

Have a nice evening

Post by **peter1138** » 10 Oct 2006 23:10

I wasn't aware that the AI used transfer orders at all...

SmatZ · Post by **SmatZ** » 10 Oct 2006 23:13

The orders in GoTo are just 'Load' and 'Unload'. I don't know if the current behavior (Transfer payment) is correct - but probably it is. (as far as I remember, this is the way it worked in TTDPatch)

bobingabout · Post by **bobingabout** » 11 Oct 2006 08:02

AFAIK, unloading to a station that doesn't accept that cargo now automaticly initiates cargo traqnsfer (which i don't think it should). the AI always uses load and unload orders. in this case, it looks like the steel mill has packed up and gone, and the AI hasn't noticed since it thinks the train is still making money.

Ailure · Post by **Ailure** » 14 Oct 2006 09:39

Infact there's a 4x4 square or something that seems to be the remains of a old steel mill.

MeusH · Post by **MeusH** » 14 Oct 2006 10:34

Back to bugs, what happened to the station sign? Haven't seen something like that before...

Post by **peter1138** » 14 Oct 2006 13:27

That happens if the language is changed. It doesn't update the sign length.

MagicBuzz · Post by **MagicBuzz** » 16 Oct 2006 08:22

Hmmm...

"Transfert". This mean your train just unload it's Iron here. And the amount of money it shows you is the money it would get when a second train will send this iron to a steel mill.

It's an old wished feature of TTDPatch.

Remember the original TTD game :
You have 3 stations. A, B and C :
- A produces Iron.
- B produces and consumes nothing.
- C consumes Iron.
You have two trains :
- 1 sends Iron from A to B
- 2 sends Iron from B to C

In the original game, the train 2 got money for the whole delivrey : from A to C, and train 1 was always loosing money. After some years, you see that train 1 loose a lot of money, and you don't remember what it does. You see there is nothing at station B, you think a factory closed, and remove the train 1. This scenario was very common and quite boring (when you relized your error, you already lost a lot of money).

With this feature, your train 2 get the whole money (transportation A to C) MINUS the "transfert" money train 1 got. So the train 1 get like 50% of the money, and train 2 the same thing. By this way, both your trains are paid for the complete service, and you don't see trains loosing money as they are just usefull.

So, back to the problem : you won't earn this money until you effectively send the iron to a steel mill.

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