Wolf01's hire point - Last addition: sloped stations

[Wolf01]

NEW!

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Status: With this patch you can build your trainstations going uphill/downhill or partially in plain.
The main problem is the missing graphic, and I have some little problems with tiles with only one corner raised.
It should not break the savegame compatibility, since I didn't added new stuff but only removed a check which disallowed
the player to build impossible combinations of stations and tweaked a bit the GetSlopeZ_Station code.
It must be extended to road stations too, at least to roadstops so you can make sloped tram stations (I know you want them )
You can find the patch here with a pre compiled win32 executable and a savegame which shows what's possible.
http://transporttycoon.game-host.org/OT ... ations.zip

Status: It works, it asserts, it doesn't allow to "overwrite" existing stations.
The final version will allow to extend adjoined stations, overwrite stations (bus->truck->bus) if they are of the same type and in the same direction, and hopefully should have no bugs
You can find it here: http://transporttycoon.game-host.org/OT ... 012_2.diff

ABANDONED!

Status: Got something to work, but really far from completion, 15 minutes of work aren't enough
For the happyness of some users who complaint about useless/conflicting/hard to find hotkeys, I decided to make another patch
At the first see it seemed not an hard work, but now there are things which are blocking progresses
The first thing I need from you is a suggestion on how the hotkeys could be customised
The second thing: any help on coding is appreciated
ABANDONED: somebody beat me on time

Status: Test
I decided to make a tool which allow to cut mountain tops but keep intact the landscape under the level of the starting tile, mainly because I needed to destroy some mountains but keep the coast line, so I started to code this patch
Since this behaviour might be useful also in the opposite way, to fill valleys and lakes, I coded that way too
There is only one problem (ok two, the other is a lot of duplicate code), it asserts on costs when trying to terraform more than 3 corners (a 2x2 area has 1 corner in the middle, but if is a slope it might have more than 3 corners) FIXED many thanks to Roujin
http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_relate ... _land.diff
Screenshot:

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Status: Test
I like Rollercoaster Tycoon and Locomotion title screen which scrolls and shows different areas, so i made it!
There is a little problem with the "OpenTTD" writing which disappear when moving the view (I put a panel under it)
I wanted to continue the development of this patch, but due of the lack of will and time, I release it
I hope that somebody will add a system which allows to scroll to signs, so it will be possible to make some hotspot areas and cycle trough them.
http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_relate ... 11397.diff

Status: In trunk
Allow the player to remove a station, a part of a station, more (parts of) stations with a simple drag&drop instead of clicking more times

Status: Done
I made an "EDIT SCENARIO" button for the intro gui, i also rearranged the gui and removed the useless four climate buttons
Tell me if you want the gui with buttons only or with the four climate images at the edges (but not as buttons because they are useless)
F1 = GUI without climate buttons
F2 = GUI with climate buttons, at the angles and not active
http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_related/main_menu.PNG screenshot of the F2 GUI, the F1 is the same, narrow and without the climates images

Status: Done
You can build semaphores as default signal type before a set DATE and electric lights signals since that DATE
You can set the date on Construction section of configure patches

Status: Done, in Trunk
This patch separate the transparencies for many things in the game, you can make transparent only the trees, only the houses, the industries, the player buildings (stations and bridges) and catenary (to be able to see the junctions or the signals when are covered by pylons with some catenary sets), bridges or unmovables.
with CTRL+X you can open the gui to set the transparencies with a comfortable gui
You can also toggle the transparencies memorization for the X key, so you can toggle for example "all visible" with "trees and houses invisible" without set the transparencies again by hand.
The hotkeys to toggle the transparencies individually are CTRL+1..7
Dedicated topic: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=29627

Status: Done, in Trunk
You can build semaphores as default signal type before a set DATE and electric lights signals since that DATE
You can set the date on Construction section of configure patches

Status: Planned
Signs allow only to store a little string
If you want to leave a message for other players you have to place many signs
i want to code new multiline textboxes-signs, resizable with a button (like the resize button of the balance gui): single row like now and full box

Status: Abandoned due of the complexity
Double zoom level in addition to the three zoom levels (not more CTRL+D)

Status: Quite Done
The ability to place eyecandy things like houses, trees, other buildings of newstation.grf not being part of a station: you should be able to place them like the buy land tool
see: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=29286

Status: Planned
The title says all: diagonal roads like rail tracks, maybe also one way roads

Status: Planned
i want to add a button on station window to show the catchement areas
i want also that when i build a new station, existent stations (maybe only those in the view to not use more cpu) show their catchement areas so it can help to improve the coverage as you can see which points overlap and which remain uncovered

Status: Done, in MiniIN
Diff: http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_relate ... 2_276.diff
Exe+diff: http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_relate ... N_5682.zip
as happen in lomo, you can join two stations by placing the new tile 2-3 tiles away
if there are more than one station in the area, a popup appear to ask you at which station you want to merge the new tile
i thought about ctrl+drag = this behaviour and drag = normal behaviour
EDIT: would allow build templates to copy non uniform stations with splitted tiles

Status: Done, In MiniIN
the daylength patch works, but need an intensive bugfix in the economy code because you can earn more money if you stretch the daylength because you also stretch all the taxex as them are based on the year length and not in ticks (like the industry production and the vehicles speed)

Status: Done, in MiniIN, in Trunk
some days ago i got an idea, but i forget about it before i could write it here, but this evening i read something like this on a post and the idea came back into my mind
the idea is simply, very simply, is the opposite of "join stations"
this mean that you will be able to place separate stations adjacent at an existing station, maybe you can use them as large waypoints or to build complex stations, but the first idea was to build a station adjacent at an opponent station

[Griff]

The ability to see the catchment would be useful, as there is no simple way to view it which would help when placing new stations or adding platforms onto existing ones e.c.t
No opinions on the others yet.

[quba]

-=<( Join Stations When Them Are 1 To 3 Tiles Far Away )>=-

This is my favorite, it is really stupid to destroy couple of buildings only to make a lorry station connected to bus or railway.

[Saibot]

-=<( Join Stations When Them Are 1 To 3 Tiles Far Away )>=-

This is my favorite, it is really stupid to destroy couple of buildings only to make a lorry station connected to bus or railway.

I also think this is a good idea, but as long as the station is railway, you can make use of the newstation graphics for now..

[klogg]

-=<( Join Stations When Them Are 1 To 3 Tiles Far Away )>=-

Great! That would be so cool. But why not up to 5 or more tiles? (make it optional)
I never build different stations that close to each other. Only to enlarge an existing one.
Please do that fist and post a patch. Hurry!!!

klogg

[Wolf01]

i'm glad that you liked the projects, now i only need some little slaves to make them
jokes apart, if somebody wants to collaborate i'll be very happy and the patches creation can proceed more quickly as other people may know what to modify better than me

[Wolf01]

i had a new idea: separate adjacent stations, the description on the first post

tell me what do you think about it

[Shorty]

Great! That would be so cool. But why not up to 5 or more tiles? (make it optional)

this is actually possible, in an albeit slightly cheating manner (in MiniIN at least)

there is an option called, 'station spread', which allows you to configure the maximum distance an outlying portion of a station may be from the signpost of the station.
MiniIN also allows you to build many stations of the same type(ie bus) next to each other, which will autojoin the the nearby station's home station.

there is, however, nothing stopping you from then demolishing any of the other sections of the station. if this then seperates the other portions of the station from each other, then, well, nothing. you have a single station with a gap between its different loading bays.

ive used this technique to create 'catchment points' which are essentially just a single station (of the type of your choice) placed next to a resource you want to be loadable or accepted at your central station.

it does, of course, require some careful construction to create the temporary link routes between stations, and often i will have to wait some time before the town forgives me for replacing half its roads with bus stations, but its something i do so often that theres always another town which doesnt yet hate me where i can build more, more expansive stations.

one thing to note: the payment for goods is measured from the location of the station names, NOT the specific place it was loaded at. ive had a long route pay little because the original stations arent very far apart, but at the same time had a bus make several thousand for crossign the street.

[l_Blue_l]

i had a new idea: separate adjacent stations, the description on the first post

tell me what do you think about it

i dont know if this would be possible but what about splitting a station into mulitiple stations but share everything. to do this you could have 2 substations which collect the goods and store it in the master stations. The master station could be a little head office ajoining the two stations. (this is so the master station has a tile index)

This could solve some of the way points problems.



And i hope to soon start working on a show catchement areas patch i just have two other things i hope to finnish first.

[Wolf01]

a liiiiittle improvement on ajdacent stations patch -> see screenshot, is not an artwork

you will be able to build a new station adjacent to an another station, also adjacent to an opponent station

i want to join all 3 station ideas into one and call the patch "Adjacent Stations"

[Salvo_guy]

so what happens if we want to extend a current station? is that still possible.. or is there some sort of settings...???

[Shorty]

maybe a dialogue to ask, when its feasible, if you want to merge with the existing station.

[Wolf01]

i already thought to add one or two buttons in the station building tool, one to split stations, one to join stations in the catchement area and i want also to change the behaviour of the show catchement area to show the catchement areas of all the stations in the viewport (belugas suggested the DistManhattan function or something like it)

[Wolf01]

tonight i worked with Frostregen (many thanks also at the OpenTTD mIRC channel) at the patch, the first version works very well, now is needed a list to select the station you want to join if more than one station is found in the area which is customizable in the patches.station gui

with ctrl you can place more different stations adjacent without join them

[klogg]

It's nice to hear (see) that this idea is being developed.
Would be a really useful feature.
Good luck furthermore.

klogg

[Salvo_guy]

when will the patch b released??? (for testing)

[Wolf01]

i can only release the preview i made, the official version is under development by Frostregen

the patch is for MiniIN (latest)
in configure patches -> stations -> "Max adjoin distance" you can specify how far the new station will be linked
pressing CTRL when placing a station will split stations, so you can place a new station adjacent at another station (like the screenshot i posted some time ago)

(the official patch behaviour may differ)

[Frostregen]

Here's a small teaser


The nearby stations will be listed in an extra window,
which pops up if needed.

After clicking on a stationname, the new station will build and joined with the selected one.

Currently I'm coding the new Window.

EDIT: Seems to work, now i need to port it to other station-types

[Frostregen]

Ok, here is the finished one

Please do some testing

Controls:
-Patches: MaxStationSpread controls the maximum search radius.
-CTRL + build station: build a new (splitted) station
-without CTRL:
->If no station in range: new station
->If 1 station in range: merge with that station
->If 2+ stations in range: pop up a list, select one to join with


Have fun,
thx to Wolf01 for pushing the idea.

-Frostregen

EDIT: UPDATED patchfile v5
->Behavior is now configurable via patches->stations->allow distant join
->Fixed Glitch with switched width/height when drag&dropping railstation

NOTE: Patchfile moved to first post.

[Wolf01]

good, i think that this patch is a great improvement for the playability


now a screenshot for the people who wants to select the platform to load/unload without waypoints