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Which DMU do you find better looking
Poll ended at Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:59 am
DE-III (plan U): http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_U 38%  38%  [ 9 ]
DE-IV (Ram): http://www.stichtingtee.nl/nl/trein/geschiedenis 63%  63%  [ 15 ]
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It's been a long long time since I was in the Netherlands but as I recall, these look pretty good.

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I'm no critic but the Engines look like cars! 8)


they are... you can actually sit in the engine and it'll look like a wagon...
most dutch trains have engines under every wagon, theý're quite small, but many of them

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top_cat19 wrote:
I'm no critic but the Engines look like cars! 8)


they are... you can actually sit in the engine and it'll look like a wagon...
most dutch trains have engines under every wagon, theý're quite small, but many of them


Nice, cool, wow!!! :lol:

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hmm I dont mind improving it, no in fact I think they will lokk better with bigger windows, and the nose, well ehm its hard, becouse the nose get a bit to long if I make it less triangular :(. But I make one condition, before I publish any more pics, or grf files:
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BTW i haven´t followed the topic closely, but should the train graphics like in SCR33.png should not be like you would look it from same height as the train is. It should be from upper view.

-Just my opinion

-Other spites look great
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Petae wrote:
little OT but did ns introduced a new design for their trains a while ago?
Yes, the new version of the "Sprinter".
@broodje: Nice work! Keep em' comin' !!
And maybe use the random livery so you can use commercials for Martin Air on the "Koploper"
And if anyone needs pictures of Dutch or other European trains, go here.

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We should cetainly use random livery. A lot of locomotives also changed livery over time, is it possible to use that too?
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hmm there is a bit of a problem: Max Payne 2 :(, it consuming a lot of time this weekend :P. I'm gone try the new windows first, btw does someone now if the hondekop looked diferend as PLAN-V exept the panthograaf an the colour? otherwise I only paint it in a diferned colour, and dinges (or someone else who is willing to make some nfo files) can give it diferend specs.

btw, way to good, how do you mean? you think there should be more roof visible? I made it as big as the roofs from the original ttd are, I don't know I think the roof is placed good, but maybe the windows should be a bit lower.
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wee, I made a GRF from it, looks great broodje, only I need some statistics to complete it. :P

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oke the specs are found, they are on http://www.nedrail1435.nl/
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Arathorn wrote:
We should cetainly use random livery. A lot of locomotives also changed livery over time, is it possible to use that too?


I don't know how to do it, but they are planning to do that for the BR-set to show teh livery changes after privatisation in the mid 90s.

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hmm oke, a new update :P, I made the windows bigger, but I'm not sure yet, I think they look better but I dont get the look diferend as way2good said, I'm not sure why, I tried all sort of things, but they all end up looking ridiculus :(.
BTW I made a smal mistake :P, the 2 part train is plan-V and the 4 part is plan-T, so I just made the train from the hague to hoorn, wich consist of plan-v and T

anyway, the trains are way to short, so I could try to get 2 wagons act as one, I only paint them way to long, so they are a bit on top of eachother :P, I think it will look weird in the corners, but at the otherhand, the doubledeckers look even more weird now :P, as far as I.

Anyway, can these graphics also be used for plan-U (who thought up those stupid names) or do they look difrend?

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oke, I found one stupid error, and it took me some time to see it :p, the train was much to low, eg it was driving on the grass instead of on the rails, I've changed Yrel a bit and now it drives on the rails :P

btw I changed the nse aswell, can you see that? /me cant :P, but it should be a bit steeper is it better or not?


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The last picture looks OK, but in the others the train seems way way too small.

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I too think you should make the wagons a little longer. The windows might look better then and you can add a door to the front-wagons. Now they only have doors on one side.
About the ridiculus naming: Plan T was the 'Trein van de Toekomst' (Train of the Future). But I'm not sure that really is the reasoning behind it. What I forgot to research last time are pulled carriages for human transport :wink: . It would be neat to have 'stalen D's' and 'Plan W' carriages. The stalen D's (steel D's) made beautiful pairs with 1100 locomotives, both in a beautiful colour creme-blue. It would be eyecandy to have them on your tracks. I'll try to find a pic soon.

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I'm going to finish plan V and P today, but does anybody know how much hp 700kW is :?:

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hyronymous,
I might be completly wrong, but as far as I know the max distance between railcars (the first pixel of each car) is 32, so I cant make them longer, becouse they will overlap, so you cant see that I made them longer then. So the only way to make them longer would be to use 2cars to resemble one wagon and that looks realy strange when going trough the corners. I shall see what I can do, but I dont think it will work out (btw they are as big as the wagons in the db set :))
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kW times 1.6 = HP

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kw times 1.33 = hp...

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