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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:43 pm 
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So this has been happening for me since around the beginning of this year.

Whenever I pause a video hosted on YouTube because I want to wait for it to load all the way before I watch it, it never wants to buffer further than slightly less than a minute from where my pointer is. Also, all footage after a certain point from where I'm watching seems to unbuffer. So if I want to go back to a certain point in the video I've just watched, I have to load that part all over again.

I don't suppose anyone here can tell me if they experience the same thing with YouTube. I'm curious to know if this is a problem on my end, or if YouTube have done something on theirs.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:30 am 
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Unfortunately this seems to be the normal behaviour right now. I think they do it to reduce traffic, since some people with fast connections downloaded large parts of videos but then didn't watch the entire thing.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:44 am 
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As doktorhonig said. And this behavior is there since google bought it. It has some cons and some pros. If you have problems or for whatever reason you want to load whole video first, simply mute it and play it. After a while return and play again ;) .

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:02 am 
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Or if you're using Firefox, download it using for instance the DownloadHelper extension and watch it offline.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:26 pm 
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Try watching Youtube on a mobile device or tablet, then you will really have something to complain about.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:59 pm 
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pavel1269 wrote:
As doktorhonig said. And this behavior is there since google bought it. It has some cons and some pros. If you have problems or for whatever reason you want to load whole video first, simply mute it and play it. After a while return and play again ;) .
I really have no choice in the matter since the best connection where I live goes up to 2 mbps. So often I can't load videos as fast as they play. I did think before about the very same thing you're suggesting now. This doesn't work however because, like I stated, YouTube unloads all footage you've just played. So you can't just go back and rewatch the video whole.

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Or if you're using Firefox, download it using for instance the DownloadHelper extension and watch it offline.
I will check this out. Thanks.
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*sigh* So this is the sin of living in the age of fast internet. Companies expect everyone to have 10 mbps connections. I never really cared about not being able to download gigabyte files in under a minute, let alone stream them. I just wish companies wouldn't make their websites impractical to use for anyone who doesn't live in a large city center.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:07 pm 
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ACM wrote:
I will check this out. Thanks.
Well I've just got around to trying this plug-in out and came to the conclusion that it's really pointless for using to circumvent YouTube's buffer limit. All it does is create a 1.7 Megabyte file that can't be played. I googled "downloads 1.7 mb" and noticed not only that I'm not the only one to see this, but that all the complaints being made were in this year. Interestingly enough, videos hosted on websites which don't impose buffer limits, such as Blip.tv, download just fine.

I just pray that every single other video hosting website out there doesn't catch on to this method of limiting downloading of their videos.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:20 pm 
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I've downloaded many tv episodes off youtube that way. Somtimes I get 0 byte files, but that can be fixed by refreshing the page. Has something to do with ads according to the interwebs. I always pick the mp4 version.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:58 am 
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ACM wrote:
I really have no choice in the matter since the best connection where I live goes up to 2 mbps. So often I can't load videos as fast as they play.


2mbps should be plenty sufficient to load Youtube videos unless you watch everything in HD. My connection does not go higher than 1mbps, despite the claims of my provider, and I regularly stream TV shows in a much higher resolution and quality than the average Youtube video. You may want to check what your actual connection speed is - there is a website around for doing that.

EDIT - I ammend that. I just did a recheck on my own connection speed, having not checked since we changed provider, and I actually have a 5mbps connection now. Whoops :oops: But with my previous slow connection speed, I was able to stream Youtube videos without too much problem. Maybe try going down one notch on the quality settings?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:23 am 
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Yes, I could do that. But this really is a case of why should I? I was just fine with waiting a bit for videos to download whole, and I didn't mind waiting that much longer if I really wanted to view it in a higher res. Hell, not that many years ago, it was the only way you could view a video from the internet. Now the only real reason my connection 'limits' me to low definition videos is because some webmasters say so. This is purposely sabotaging something that worked fine before. Why fix what wasn't broken?

2Mbps is not a slow connection. 56k for the longest time was considered the stereotypical slow connection that couldn't load many webpages, but not 2Mbps. Only those who believe everyone lives in a capital would think so.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:52 am 
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youtube now splits videos into those 1,7 mb files, probably to make downloading more difficult. Now it's not possible anymore to simply copy the files from the browser cache. Maybe keepvid still works, but i don't think so.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:59 am 
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I just tried with DownloadHelper, and it is still able to download videos in one piece. Tried on a random video uploaded to youtube yesterday.

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I belong to those pretty happy about this - I've got a limited bandwidth (college dorms)...

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