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Class 165 · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 2:11 pm

Ameecher wrote:

You wouldn't have to demolish the new platforms, just shorten them a bit. As it stands it might be possible to build a single track entrance to new platforms past the existing platforms but that doesn't do a lot for flexibility, points failure or a break down and that's 4 platforms out of commission until it gets fixed.

Well they don't need to be that long if you're destroying the BNP Paribas building, as they could actually start at the concourse instead of a mile up the station, so in that case you wouldn't need to 'demolish' them, but you would get rid of a significant amount of platform.

Kevo00 · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 4:21 pm

Lol, its pretty obvious from a glance at Google Earth that the BNP Paribas building is a big obstacle.

Why not demolish the RBS buildings on Bishopsgate to build some new platforms for Liverpool Street? After all, that 6tph from Aldeburgh is going to have to terminate somewhere!

47434 · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 7:17 pm

Kevo00 wrote:

...Why not demolish the RBS buildings on Bishopsgate to build some new platforms for Liverpool Street?...

Well, at least that building is owned or at least occupied by the Government! :lol:

I think Liverpool Street station really should be renamed (Broadgate maybe) to avoid confusing the country bumpkins at Norwich, but that's going off topic again, sorry!

Ameecher · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 7:21 pm

Doesn't take much, happens too at Cambridge and Ely but to a much lesser extent. The Liverpool trains are quite amusing with their announcements before departure at Norwich: "This is NOT the London train" some of them switch it round to "Lime Street, Liverpool" which I don't think clarifies much at all!

yorkie · **Joined:** Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:38 am **Posts:** 185

Alan Fry wrote:

XeryusTC wrote:

Alan Fry, might I point out to you the fact that your opinions might not be based on reality?

Sadly for you, they are!

Really?

Which of your plans have actually come to fruition then?

Kevo00 wrote:

Lol, its pretty obvious from a glance at Google Earth...

Alan does not do such research before posting. So something could be incredibly obviously not feasible, yet he will still suggest it!

He's the only person to suggest such crazy ideas (though someone like 01jtiong - who can be found on Thestudentroom these days - comes kind-of close, ish!) so spotting duplicate accounts is incredibly easy

JamieLei · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 10:52 pm

Kevo00 wrote:

Lol, its pretty obvious from a glance at Google Earth that the BNP Paribas building is a big obstacle.

Why not demolish the RBS buildings on Bishopsgate to build some new platforms for Liverpool Street? After all, that 6tph from Aldeburgh is going to have to terminate somewhere!

Not to mention the commuter Pendolino from Clacton!

EXTspotter · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 11:11 pm

How about the supercommuter ones to Enfield and Cheshunt?

I forsee a lot of platform extensions....

47407 · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 9:09 am

They'll be done with HSTs

Alan Fry · **Joined:** Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:11 pm **Posts:** 971

Class 165 wrote:

Well they're not based on reality, because you based your last idea of transferring Amersham/Chesham services to Marylebone on fantasy, as you didn't know that to build new platforms at Marylebone you would have to demolish a large BNP Paribas branch, loads of houses and the new platforms that Chiltern built a couple of years ago.

I knew that the current "new" platforms will have to moved forward towards the station and quite a lot of buildings will have to go, but there is nothing that is listed and also I don't base my ideas on the property transactions of the railways.

The trouble with the Met is that its more of a suburban railway than a metro lines

Kevo00 wrote:

Lol, its pretty obvious from a glance at Google Earth that the BNP Paribas building is a big obstacle.

Why not demolish the RBS buildings on Bishopsgate to build some new platforms for Liverpool Street? After all, that 6tph from Aldeburgh is going to have to terminate somewhere!

With Liverpool Street, there will be a few more platforms available once Crossrail is built

47434 wrote:

Kevo00 wrote:

...Why not demolish the RBS buildings on Bishopsgate to build some new platforms for Liverpool Street?...

Well, at least that building is owned or at least occupied by the Government! :lol:

I think Liverpool Street station really should be renamed (Broadgate maybe) to avoid confusing the country bumpkins at Norwich, but that's going off topic again, sorry!

London Broadgate is a rather good idea!

yorkie wrote:

Really?

Which of your plans have actually come to fruition then?

He's the only person to suggest such crazy ideas (though someone like 01jtiong - who can be found on Thestudentroom these days - comes kind-of close, ish!) so spotting duplicate accounts is incredibly easy

For god sake I am not transport minister and anyway, the ideas I am suggesting will take years to do

Also My ideas are not crazy, unless you describe any idea to improve the railways as one!

Ameecher · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 1:54 pm

Stuff doesn't have to be listed for it to be difficult to move. You'd have to put a compulsory purchase order on the BNP Paribas building which isn't going to be cheap. I can think of 101 better things that that money could be spent on because Marylebone doesn't need the extra platforms.

Alan Fry · **Joined:** Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:11 pm **Posts:** 971

Ameecher wrote:

Stuff doesn't have to be listed for it to be difficult to move. You'd have to put a compulsory purchase order on the BNP Paribas building which isn't going to be cheap. I can think of 101 better things that that money could be spent on because Marylebone doesn't need the extra platforms.

Marylebone currently does not need extra platforms, but if extra services are send to that station, then it would need it

Ameecher · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 2:44 pm

Yes but they're not and there's no reason to send extra services there.

Kevo00 · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 4:26 pm

And if we think of the point of transport, in that things are often built close to transport for a reason, by demolishing the BNP Paribas building we could be killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

JamieLei · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 10:36 pm

Kevo00 wrote:

And if we think of the point of transport, in that things are often built close to transport for a reason, by demolishing the BNP Paribas building we could be killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

Alan doesn't like the building cause it has the word "BNP" in it. We're trying to think too logically here.

GurraJG · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 10:43 pm

Everytime I see "BNP" I always think of the Swedish word "Bruttonationalprodukt", gross national product, which is abbreviated BNP.

Then I think of Nick Griffin.

Griff · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 11:17 pm

GurraJG wrote:

Everytime I see "BNP" I always think of the Swedish word "Bruttonationalprodukt", gross national product, which is abbreviated BNP.

Then I think of Nick Griffin.

Then I think of Family Guy.

Alan Fry · **Joined:** Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:11 pm **Posts:** 971

Ameecher wrote:

Yes but they're not and there's no reason to send extra services there.

I was only planning it so that space on the Met line could be released to have 4th servcies to both Watford Tube and Watford Junction

Kevo00 wrote:

And if we think of the point of transport, in that things are often built close to transport for a reason, by demolishing the BNP Paribas building we could be killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

There is a lot of office space nearby (even more when Euston is rebuilt)

JamieLei wrote:

Kevo00 wrote:

And if we think of the point of transport, in that things are often built close to transport for a reason, by demolishing the BNP Paribas building we could be killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

Alan doesn't like the building cause it has the word "BNP" in it. We're trying to think too logically here.

I have nothing against BNP Paribas, I also know that the term "BNP" means Banque Nationale de Paris (National Bank of Paris) which was the French ban that merged with Paribas (another french bank)

You know what BNP Paribas shouls sue the British National Party over this

Dave W · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 1:04 pm

Alan Fry wrote:

You know what BNP Paribas shouls sue the British National Party over this

What?

Alan Fry · **Joined:** Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:11 pm **Posts:** 971

Dave W wrote:

Alan Fry wrote:

You know what BNP Paribas shouls sue the British National Party over this

What?

I am suggest BNP Paribas should sue British National Party over the use of the "BNP" name

Becuase it is BNP Paribas that owns the "BNP" trademark

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/tm/t-os/t-f ... 0794219001

Griff · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 1:40 pm

Alan Fry wrote:

Dave W wrote:

Alan Fry wrote:

You know what BNP Paribas shouls sue the British National Party over this

What?

I am suggest BNP Paribas should sue British National Party over the use of the "BNP" name

Becuase it is BNP Paribas that owns the "BNP" trademark

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/tm/t-os/t-f ... 0794219001

Why? Surely it is legally known as the British National Party, it just happens to be abbreviated to BNP. I'm sure if there were a conflict over the use of BNP, it would have occured already..

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