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A321Pilot · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:03 pm

@Voyager: We will be flying numerous Bombers, Fighters and Helicopters in and out of the Iraq/Afghanistan area Daily. All Aircraft will be told to make them self Recognisable to Kiran Crews, if they are mistaken for Al-Khadira. Our Pilots are Highly Trained in the Art of Missile and Cannon Evasion. Our Aircraft are also easily distinguishable, being either British or Dutch Built. We can also build your ships for you at Barrow in Furness. Name your Price we will see if it is suitable (I know nothing about the pricing of Boats - Air is more my Area) and let us know how many you need.

Voyager One · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:21 pm

A321Pilot wrote:

All Aircraft will be told to make them self Recognisable to Kiran Crews, if they are mistaken for Al-Khadira.

Al-Khadira doesn't have any aircraft, that is not the problem. The fact remains that Kiran airspace is property of the Republic of Kira and we claim it and defend it all the time. If an airplane is not announced, who is to say that plane isn't attacking Kira? If an unannounced airplane is detected, our airforce reacts in a "standard" manner - intercepting or even shooting it down with SA missiles. Don't you care to avoid these incidents. OK, we retract our decision of a 12-hour pre-announcement, but a minimum of 30-45 minutes MUST be respected.

Wrt patrol ships - We are interested in technical stats as well as the price. :twisted:

Yoursnotmine · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:36 pm

Sorry, is the game is still opened, i have seeing it for quite a long time, but I see the map is full.

if its closed its okay, im just asking...

Voyager One · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:43 pm

Yoursnotmine wrote:

Sorry, is the game is still opened, i have seeing it for quite a long time, but I see the map is full.

No, it's not closed, you can join! And the map isn't full either!

This is the latest map, take a look at a lot of "unoccupied" territories (Africa, N. America). Take some and start. We're in cca 1980+something.

A321Pilot · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:50 pm

Voyager One wrote:

A321Pilot wrote:

All Aircraft will be told to make them self Recognisable to Kiran Crews, if they are mistaken for Al-Khadira.

Al-Khadira doesn't have any aircraft, that is not the problem. The fact remains that Kiran airspace is property of the Republic of Kira and we claim it and defend it all the time. If an airplane is not announced, who is to say that plane isn't attacking Kira? If an unannounced airplane is detected, our airforce reacts in a "standard" manner - intercepting or even shooting it down with SA missiles. Don't you care to avoid these incidents. OK, we retract our decision of a 12-hour pre-announcement, but a minimum of 30-45 minutes MUST be respected.

Wrt patrol ships - We are interested in technical stats as well as the price. :twisted:

All Missions will be launched with a Half Hour warning. We would like to control the Airspace above the Iraq and Afghanistan area whilst this war is on going. We will also be using Bagram AB throughout so Any Aircraft from their will be RAF Aircraft. Also note, that we are using the EB-52 Megafortress in this Area, which we will warn you has Airmines, Jamming Systems, Terrain Following Equipment and Air-to-Air Missiles on board. Are you sure Al-Khadira have no Planes, We have had numerous Appearences of a Lau Built Aircraft that our Pilots have nicknamed the Fishbed (MIG-21)

Regarding the Ships. We can meet the Higher Ends of your Specifications. What Price are you willing to pay?

Voyager One · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:07 pm

A321Pilot wrote:

Are you sure Al-Khadira have no Planes

Yes, we are absolutely positive about it.

A321Pilot wrote:

We have had numerous Appearences of a Lau Built Aircraft that our Pilots have nicknamed the Fishbed (MIG-21)

Don't touch those! Those are Kiran!!! And besides, those are Kiran built, not Lau. Designated as old JF-5s.

(/OT/ IIRC I called them JF-5, maybe JF-7).

A321Pilot · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:14 pm

Voyager One wrote:

A321Pilot wrote:

Are you sure Al-Khadira have no Planes

Yes, we are absolutely positive about it.

A321Pilot wrote:

We have had numerous Appearences of a Lau Built Aircraft that our Pilots have nicknamed the Fishbed (MIG-21)

Don't touch those! Those are Kiran!!! And besides, those are Kiran built, not Lau. Designated as old JF-5s.

Okay, we will stay away from them. We were just telling you we had seen them. We thought they looked a lot like the Lau Aircraft.

Do you mind if we control the Airspace or not?

Are you happy with the Way the boats will be built. Also, what price.

Voyager One · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:51 pm

A321Pilot wrote:

We were just telling you we had seen them. We thought they looked a lot like the Lau Aircraft.

Old, almost obsolete Kiran fighters. With the latest ones in action, only a few of these are remaining, more as reconaissance than anything else.

A321Pilot wrote:

Do you mind if we control the Airspace or not?

We have no problem with that.

A321Pilot wrote:

Are you happy with the Way the boats will be built. Also, what price.

We're waiting for more offers. Please, wait a little longer.

A321Pilot · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:05 pm

@Voyager: We understand with the fighters now. We have taken control of the Airspace in the Iraq and Afghanistan area and are also patrolling it in the Air with a E-3 Sentry. We will of course wait for a reply from you on the Boats.

KasperVld · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:53 pm

Voyager One wrote:

We're in cca 1980+something.

Day 2, 1983 to be exact

We are looking to sell ~140 of our current 220 lynx helicopters, maintenance costs for these helicopters are becoming too high after the latest increase in price of spare parts by Westland. A new dutch design has caught our interest and will replace and add to the current range of helicopters: we will be buying 180 AS-565 Panther Helicopters.

Specs:
General characteristics
Crew: 1 or 2 pilots
Capacity: 10
Length: 13.68 m (45.88 ft)
Rotor diameter: 11.94 m (39.17ft)
Height: 3.97 m (13.02 ft)
Max. takeoff weight: 4,300 kg (9,480 lb)

Performance
Maximum speed: 306 km/h (165 knots, 190 mph), range: 827 km (514 mi)
Service ceiling: 5,865 m (19,242 ft)m rate of climb: 8.9 m/s (29 ft/s)

Armament
Guns: Giat M621 20 mm cannon pods.
Rockets: 68 mm and 70 mm unguided rockets.
Missiles: air-to-air, air-to-surface (+anti tank), anti submarine torpedoes[list]

The old Lynx helicopters may be bought for NLG 9.000.000 (USD 6 mln) each
The new Panther is for sale at NLG 15.000.000 (USD 10 mln) each

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We have also developed a new anti-ship missile which can be fired from stationary bases on land, by submarine, from an F14 or F16 or from large ships, such as destroyers and cruisers. It has been named the 'Exocet' (image). The Exocet is guided by Galileo sattelites and skims over the water to decrease the chance of it missing the target. No direct hit is needed for it to explode, once it is within 50 meters of its designated target it will explode.

Launch capabilities from a helicopter such as the Lynx or Panther are being developed. Early tests are hopeful.

47407 · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:56 pm

We would like to buy 6 Panthers and 20 Lynxes, please!

KasperVld · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:00 pm

47407 wrote:

We would like to buy 6 Panthers and 20 Lynxes, please!

Your order has been noted, total price excluding weaponry is USD 180 mln. We can deliver the Lynx helicopters over the next 2 months, the Panthers will take up to a year, since production is still being set up.

A321Pilot · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:32 pm

@Kasper: The British Government had stepped in to subsidise Westland. This means that prices on the parts will be decreasing very soon.

APDAF · **Joined:** Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:26 pm **Posts:** 2402

Or you could buy these.

Specifications.

General characteristics

Crew: 1 pilot (rear), 1 navigator/weapons operator (front)
Length: 17.01 m (55 ft 10 in)
Rotor diameter: 17.20 m (56 ft 5 in)
Height: 4.70 m (15 ft 5 in)
Disc area: 232.35 m² (2,501 ft²)
Empty weight: 8,600 kg (18,960 lb)
Loaded weight: 10,700 kg (23,590 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 11,500 kg (25,350 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Klimov TV3-117VMA turboshaft, 1,636 kW (2,194 shp) each

Performance

Maximum speed: 320 km/h (172 knots, 199 mph)
Cruise speed: 270 km/h (145 knots, 168 mph)
Range: 435 km (234 nmi, 270 mi)
Combat radius: 200 km (108 nmi, 124 mi) ; with 10 min loiter and 5% reserves
Ferry range: 1,100 km (593 nmi, 683 mi)
Service ceiling: 5,700 m (19,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 13.6 m/s (2,677 ft/min)

Armament

Guns: 1× chin-mounted 30 mm Shipunov 2A42 cannon with 250 rounds (±110° horizontal fire)
Hardpoints: Two pylons under each stub wing to mount bombs, rockets, missiles, and gun pods. Main armament configurations include:
16 Ataka-V anti-tank missiles and 40 S-8 rockets, Or
16 Ataka-V anti-tank missiles, and 10 S-13 rocket, Or
16 Ataka-V anti-tank missiles, and two 23 mm Gsh-23L gun pods with 250 rounds each.
Other ordnance: 9K118 Sheksna and 9A-2200 anti-tank missiles, 8 Igla-V and Vympel R-73 air-to-air missiles, 2 KMGU-2 mine dispensers

KasperVld · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:45 pm

A321Pilot wrote:

@Kasper: The British Government had stepped in to subsidise Westland. This means that prices on the parts will be decreasing very soon.

Thank you for stepping in, however this measure will not change our minds about selling the Lynxes we were already planning to sell, the financial situation is just too unstable for us and we're already committed to the Panthers

APDAF wrote:

Or you could buy these.

(MIL-MI-28)

[...]

Thank you, but we aren't looking for a dedicated attack platform, the AS-565 Panther as well as the Lynx was built as a multi-purpose helicopter for (mainly) the navy. We use Apache helicopters as our rotary wing attack platform. And if our information is correct the MIL MI-28 only exists as a prototype.

APDAF · **Joined:** Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:26 pm **Posts:** 2402

KasperVld wrote:

APDAF wrote:

Or you could buy these.

(MIL-MI-28)

[...]

Thank you, but we aren't looking for a dedicated attack platform, the AS-565 Panther as well as the Lynx was built as a multi-purpose helicopter for (mainly) the navy. We use Apache helicopters as our rotary wing attack platform. And if our information is correct the MIL MI-28 only exists as a prototype.

You need to badly update your information.

Yoursnotmine · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:43 am

Voyager One wrote:

No, it's not closed, you can join! And the map isn't full either!

I take some of the UPS unoccupied land, and make a new nation;
The Saheli Islamic Republic (If there's protest for the name, just tell me)

Pop. : 130,000,000
Main city : Saheli Akrama (see the yellow dot)
National Anthem : Freedom is for any Nation & People
Through its islamic, we are open to any single religion and we are not terrorist.

We still looking for any old fighter fleet, we order if there is more than 100 of them.
For new military aircraft, we order 20 of any single type if the price is lower than 30 million US$

First President wrote:

"Let the terrorist (Al-khadeera) go; if they make something wrong, give it to us."

Here is the latest map:

Emperor Jake · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:41 am

The Lau Republic welcomes the new nation that has risen out of the ashes of the Union of Free Republics in Africa.

Lau Aviation can offer the now somewhat old but reliable LAF-27 (redesignated from LA-27 to separate military and civil aircraft) These aircraft are cheap, only $18 million each.

We also produce the Su-25. These are much more advanced, and also more expensive at 32 million each, but we can offer you a discount if you order 20 or more.

Voyager One wrote:

Order noted. If we can suggest a trade - these transports for some newer electric locomotives (160 km/h max, adapt for both passenger and freight purposes).

Certainly, would you be willing to accept the new Class 120 locomotive? Known by the Lau Railways as SS20 class, this 7500 hp universal locomotive has a top speed of 200 km/h. If you are not willing to accept technology co-developed with Germany, we would be glad to give you the inferior, purely Lau-developed 170km/h, 4800hp SS8 class locomotive instead. (same as the express type you already have)

Voyager One wrote:

Kiran Navy tender: We require several HUNDRED small patrol/search and rescue ships. The ship design should fall into these specifications:

This is a 27m patrol boat as used by the Lau Navy. There is also a 24m version available. The builder, Yangtze Shipyards, would be glad to fulfill your order and modify the boat according to your specifications. The more powerful engine option gives a speed of 32 knots. They are known to be very stable in rough waters. Price: ¥20 million each.

A321Pilot · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:23 am

Britain also welcomes the new Nation. We can offer used F-14's at a price of $17,500,000 and new F-14's at a price of $27,500,000. The F-14 along with the F-16 ($31,500,000 (More Advanced than the Lau Crates)) are the Mainstay of the British and Dutch Air Forces and have proved their worth over the Corsh Empire, along with Over Iraq and Afghanistan.
OT/ I don't feel the name of the new country is Offensive. Manu Countries in the modern world have Islamic Republic within their full name and you are showing Realism within your countries name.

Yoursnotmine · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:20 am

We also welcomes any nations here, whatever their color...

KasperVld wrote:

We are looking to sell ~140 of our current 220 lynx helicopters, maintenance costs for these helicopters are becoming too high after the latest increase in price of spare parts by Westland.

We like to buy 100 of this. (any discount?)

For the others, could you tell me the ability and their record? we need skill and a worky one, no mater it's 1800s.

We found some tanks, gun, and aircraft here. through a bit rusty, we found the (still) working one and try to repair the others.

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