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Psicho
 Post subject: 3D engines [FAQ fork]
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:49 am 
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I think this project can be made with a prebuilded 3D engine, something like Conitec 3D Game Studio.
The language is WDL Scripting and it's very powerful and easy to use (just take a look to the screenshoots on the website) and you can integer many external dll's programmed in C++.

With it a LOT of programming work is already done!

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It's a nice suggestion, but 3D GameStudio is a commercial product. Although I think the price is quite interesting (starting at $49 for a basic licence, ranging to $899 for a professional), but it's not suitable for a free software project like TE.

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Hellfire wrote:
It's a nice suggestion, but 3D GameStudio is a commercial product. Although I think the price is quite interesting (starting at $49 for a basic licence, ranging to $899 for a professional), but it's not suitable for a free software project like TE.


Yes, that's true. I got the A4 version and is really cool (i paid it 200$) but I know that you can find 3D engines for free (with much less features than 3dgs) but right now I can't remember the link.
I'm sure you can find something in the 3dgs forum!

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Free (as in: open source) 3d engines could be considered. Perhaps someone would like to do a little research? ;)

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Hellfire wrote:
Free (as in: open source) 3d engines could be considered. Perhaps someone would like to do a little research? ;)


Here it is!:
3D State(freeware?) - http://www.3dstate.com/.
Panard Vision 3D Engine(freeware) - http://www.panardvision.com/v3/
Crystal Space(freeware) - http://crystal.sourceforge.net/drupal/ [COOL!]
Fly3D(possible freeware?) - http://www.fly3d.com.br/
Revolution 3D(freeware) - http://www.revolution3d.net/
Qube Software(freeware as of right now) - http://www.qubesoft.com/
Randon Labs Nebula 3D Engine(freeware) - http://www.radonlabs.de/
Apocalyx 3D Engine(freeware?) - http://apocalyx.sourceforge.net/
Ogre 3D(freeware) - http://ogre.sourceforge.net/
Reality Factor(freeware) - http://rfactory.uber-geek.ca/
Genisis 3D(freeware) - http://www.genesis3d.com/
Fatkiss Nive Engine (freeware?) - http://www.faktiss.net/
ExNihilo(freeware) - http://www.linuxfund.org/node.php?id=117
Kaboom Qbasic 3D Engine(freeware?) - http://www.angelfire.com/id2/qbkaboom/
Ca3DE (freeware) - http://www.ca3d-engine.de/
Cube (freeware) - http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/
ExoEngine C#(open source) - http://www.codeproject.com/cs/media/exoengine.asp
Sparklight 3D (freeware?) - http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~daydream/engine/main.htm
http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/
http://g3d-cpp.sourceforge.net/

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I am not a graphics person and therefore do not know what would constitute a "3d engine", but I think the link below might possibly be useful.

http://www.gnu.org/directory/graphics/3d/
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Psicho wrote:
Here it is!:

Unfortunately, for an open-source free-software project, "freeware" components aren't really suitable, for licensing reasons.
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Indeed, plus we can't even change freeware engines, while we have to change an existing engine to make it usefull for TE.
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ChrisCF wrote:
Psicho wrote:
Here it is!:

Unfortunately, for an open-source free-software project, "freeware" components aren't really suitable, for licensing reasons.


Crystal Space was listed as freeware but IIRC it is open source.
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I don't really know how many of them are opensource but some of them are. I would like to put an eye to Crystal Space that seems really good.

Btw. you can have a look on Sourceforge and something you can find (the best one is Crystal Space).

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Crystal Space is LGPL, meaning it can even be used for commercial products.

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This discussion is getting quite big, can someone spilt this topic?
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Arathorn wrote:
This discussion is getting quite big, can someone spilt this topic?

Tell me where :!:

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Ran a search on Google for Open Source 3D engines and on SourceForge:

http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/crystal/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/crystal/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/genesis3d/

Irrlicht seems to be developed for cross platform right from the start.

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<- Using irrlicht currently :wink:

Need a lot of work in the scenemanager (for the way I want to do it)

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Hyronymus wrote:
Irrlicht seems to be developed for cross platform right from the start.

So is Crystal Space. the genesis3d is just windows. (according to the trovelist information)
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Found another one:

Nebula Device

First problem is that it does not use an OSI-approved license. It may well be GPL-compatible, but IANAL.

I don't know anything else about this one, just found it now in relation to python and 3D.

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SourceForge wrote:
Operating System: Windows 95/98/2000, Linux
I don't know whitch operating Systems there should be supported, but Mac isn't in this case.
Beside that, there isn't be a release sinds September 2003
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The problem with the last one is that it is ported to other platforms, while Irrlicht and Crystal Space seem to be totally cross-platform.
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