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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
As requested, I coded it...I have to admit two things though...The sides of the roof don't have enough contrast in between them and maybe the company colour is too bright... I set the cc to yellow in-game so you could see it in screenshot.
Again, any tweaks or stuff is very welcome
Again, any tweaks or stuff is very welcome
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
The cc stripe does look a bit out of place... I'm thinking making them narrower might solve it.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
The walls could use some more texturing. And yes, now it's in game, the roof definitely needs darkening in my opinion. The shape is good, you just need to tweak the colours a bit. And yes, colours is the most difficult part of designing something. It takes a lot of trial and error to get it just right.
I also made a less modern bus station. Here's both in one screenshot. I think that the modern one needs to have some grey stripes on the roof, just like the not-so-modern one. Also, the not-so-modern station might be considered a derived work; although I drew it completely from scratch, the shape of the roofs is almost identical to the standard bus stop roofs. Maybe it doesn't matter if we tell nobody
The stations still lack shading on the ground tile, but I won't do that untill I get Zephyris' proper base tiles.
I also made a less modern bus station. Here's both in one screenshot. I think that the modern one needs to have some grey stripes on the roof, just like the not-so-modern one. Also, the not-so-modern station might be considered a derived work; although I drew it completely from scratch, the shape of the roofs is almost identical to the standard bus stop roofs. Maybe it doesn't matter if we tell nobody
The stations still lack shading on the ground tile, but I won't do that untill I get Zephyris' proper base tiles.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
Well, I'd offer you the BK Tunnels but sadly I don't think they are generic enough to fit the OpenGFX project. If I get enough time I will take a look at them. Im a bit short at the moment though.Zephyris wrote:Re: Ben_K - I don't really like the tunnels myself, but they are about the best I can do. Feel free to modify them!
I think the roof needs more definition and contrast. I also think the CC is way too prominent. Id recommend just adding 2CC signs or doors rather than large areas. Sometimes smaller is bigger...lordazamath wrote:...[modern depot]...
Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
i've been toying around with pax and mail wagons today, and tbh, it's a b**** to make them when you don't have an engine to model it after. Atleast to make it look good in both _ and / views... getting the windows proper tinted, as well as a nice color to the wagon, and not let it be too pale.
Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
looking at the road tunnel, i can see they still have the weird difference of size between entrance and exitZephyris wrote:OpenGFX - newInfrastructure v0.2
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i think is not sufficient to repaint all the old graphics to have open new ones, they should be redrawn from scratch
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
7of9: Can you give a try to align the NS view one pixel to the right. It might look better.
A concern about maglev: Maglev track is cut into the ground. Stations are elevated from the ground. So how do passengers get into the train? If you check the train in the station in looks like that for one side they have to go through the roof . It seems as if a mismatch is created between the 2 sides. Maglev train must have an in the track part and above the track part. And these have to fit properly in stations. Need to lower the stations' base because the distance from platform to track base is too much? I am confused how to solve this glitch. Any idea?
Foobar: I also thought the bus station looked too modern. Because I like both, I vote for both versions depending on era. Also the roof of the modern structure, to my opinion, should be 1 or 2 pixels higher. Don't want to bump my head. [EDIT: NO. This is just a joke. Don't take it seriously. It is in scale. Just gives the illusion it is short, because there are not enough pixels to draw a decent bench.]
w0lv3n /2: Already something similar requested and answered. If possible, yes.
Sorry if I skipped something. This thread is skyrocketing
A point of view: Seems that we already have some extra graphics. Why to go for sprite to sprite replacement only? Then we would be infringing copyright laws. The extra sprites will help us differentiate the grf from the original one. In case someone argues: You used the same code and just replaced the sprites...
Come on. Your Bank is great. You may need some hints though. Now I consider this WIP, but check the contrast of shading on the brick walls. There is no difference at all. Both sides are the same. So if you lighten the sunlight side the roof might not need darkening. And let me raise a thumb for the grey part of the wall. I was going to use that in the road depot, finally I dropped it, but now you use it.lordazamath wrote:baahh...I knew somehow I can't draw...
I suppose we do not need to bother as these are test versions, as Zephyris explained...lordazamath wrote:Athanasios..you should update toyland road depot... And Zephyris your latest Toyland terrain shares GrfID with your latest OpenIndustries release...
A concern about maglev: Maglev track is cut into the ground. Stations are elevated from the ground. So how do passengers get into the train? If you check the train in the station in looks like that for one side they have to go through the roof . It seems as if a mismatch is created between the 2 sides. Maglev train must have an in the track part and above the track part. And these have to fit properly in stations. Need to lower the stations' base because the distance from platform to track base is too much? I am confused how to solve this glitch. Any idea?
Foobar: I also thought the bus station looked too modern. Because I like both, I vote for both versions depending on era. Also the roof of the modern structure, to my opinion, should be 1 or 2 pixels higher. Don't want to bump my head. [EDIT: NO. This is just a joke. Don't take it seriously. It is in scale. Just gives the illusion it is short, because there are not enough pixels to draw a decent bench.]
w0lv3n /2: Already something similar requested and answered. If possible, yes.
Sorry if I skipped something. This thread is skyrocketing
A point of view: Seems that we already have some extra graphics. Why to go for sprite to sprite replacement only? Then we would be infringing copyright laws. The extra sprites will help us differentiate the grf from the original one. In case someone argues: You used the same code and just replaced the sprites...
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
Re: FooBar
Base tiles for bus/truck stop. These are generated in the same way as teh paved roads, so should match perfectly. They are simple 32bpp conversions, so may need some pixel tweaks...
Re: athanasios
The reason the maglev looks underground is because the edge of the platform has a fainter white line than the original. The dimensions of the new platform are the same as the old, but the shading at the edge is less sharp => lower contrast at the point of overlap of train and platform => less obvious overlap => looks too low. A solution would be to make the platform 2px wider, or the white line whiter. Or just leave it, it is a very minor perspective blip...
Base tiles for bus/truck stop. These are generated in the same way as teh paved roads, so should match perfectly. They are simple 32bpp conversions, so may need some pixel tweaks...
Re: athanasios
The reason the maglev looks underground is because the edge of the platform has a fainter white line than the original. The dimensions of the new platform are the same as the old, but the shading at the edge is less sharp => lower contrast at the point of overlap of train and platform => less obvious overlap => looks too low. A solution would be to make the platform 2px wider, or the white line whiter. Or just leave it, it is a very minor perspective blip...
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
Nice looking road Zephyris, however, the dashed white lines go all the way up to the parking bays. If the bays are full, a bus might get stuck!
Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
And that station comparison really shows off how much better the new stations are
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
Much better without the last dashed line!
Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
I have been searching through my massive WIP folders and found the following train sprites which may be useful. They were designed for the "generic train monorail and maglev set" which I never got round to making. The zip contains wagons, with and without cargoes, cargo graphics, some trains and WIP sprites. They may be useful as a base for new graphics - I tried some in game and they are currently too low contrast imo.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
here are a test of the pax/mail wagons i've been workin on. Well, the ones ive worked on have all been tossed in the bin as they looked wierd, but this is something that i've come up with.
Rather plain, rather simple, but they might just get the job done...???
1. Should i make them "all" connected? |_______||_______| and not |______| |______| if you get me, there are now 1px "magic blue" inbetween them.
Attached are the wagons with red CC and the original pcx in png-form
Rather plain, rather simple, but they might just get the job done...???
1. Should i make them "all" connected? |_______||_______| and not |______| |______| if you get me, there are now 1px "magic blue" inbetween them.
Attached are the wagons with red CC and the original pcx in png-form
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
tbh I think they need a lot more shading, and less formulaic shading which takes into account the curvature of the roof, see attached.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
thanx
i'll add more shading/noise to it
i'll add more shading/noise to it
Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
Attached is the shading guide I used for my generic road vehicles, it may be useful...
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
well, i dont think my shading issues are in the different views, but more the general "noise" or "texture" on the views... Not makeing them so surgical clean or sterile so to speak.
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I'd stick with the 1px 'magic blue'. That makes more sense to me, as wagons need to have some space between each other in order to be able to make turns.
Anyways, how's this for a truck station? There's a small office and a storage shed. The office is equipped with a shotgun, to keep intruders away, because the fence needs to have an opening to allow trucks to get in. Intruders might also use that opening to get in. The sign reads 'intruders will be shot; survivors will be shot again'. Anyways, I'm drifting off. I think there needs to be something on the 'sidewalk', as that's quite empty now. Maybe steetlights? Maybe in CC, as it might use some more of that, too.
Anyways, how's this for a truck station? There's a small office and a storage shed. The office is equipped with a shotgun, to keep intruders away, because the fence needs to have an opening to allow trucks to get in. Intruders might also use that opening to get in. The sign reads 'intruders will be shot; survivors will be shot again'. Anyways, I'm drifting off. I think there needs to be something on the 'sidewalk', as that's quite empty now. Maybe steetlights? Maybe in CC, as it might use some more of that, too.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
A sign? like the stations...
Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Revived
Maybe the bus station shelters could go right around the corner. Or maybe a little building or something. I think it looks a little strange as it is. Would those shelters look good on the drive through road stops?
A sign in the truck stop would look good i think. I really like that fence. (its a little bit like my railway fences. I've been trying to get round to using a fence like that for a building for ages!)
A sign in the truck stop would look good i think. I really like that fence. (its a little bit like my railway fences. I've been trying to get round to using a fence like that for a building for ages!)
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