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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:56 pm 
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If anybody thinks they are to tall, I've made a little poll.
Here are a few diffrent versions:
From left to right:
1. 4x20
2. 6x30
3. scaled to 8x40 cuted to 8x30
4. 8x40 (actually in game)
5. scaled to 16x80 cuted to 16x60
6. 16x80
What's the best?

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My vote has 7.

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7. 8x20
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:17 pm 
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My vote is 3 or 7!

I know, that in this zoom see it a little ugly, but I hope, that in ultra zoom will see better!?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:12 pm 
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For the 8bpp lamp stuff: link

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:25 pm 
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Wacki: cheers for the compliments. I like those street lamps, there very elegant. May I suggest that for your renders, you put them into Photoshop and go to layer > matting > remove black matte? 3dsmax is producing a darker glow around the edge of your renders which is quite noticeable on light colours.

Soeb: Yes you may to any tars I have uploaded. As long as people don’t just drag previews off the forum as has happened in the past then it’s fine. I havn’t added credits anywhere in the tar’s yet, but I think it would be good to do so for anyone who works on it. Could you elaborate on your criticism of the tunnels, maybe with some suggestion? Your comment doesn’t really help make it better.

GeekToo: I agree with your point on the base of the trunk, and I’ll work on that when I have a sec. Sadly I was using the term ‘knackered’ in it’s slightly corrupt sense which no longer tends to refer to the later!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:35 pm 
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I was referring to that white area. It looks boring to me. Maybe some texture?

So here are two tars. White squares. Two versions:

Elevated:

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Not elevated:

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:36 pm 
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Ok...Today I recieved a permission from Wacki to code his Oil Rig. I changed it a bit to make the "legs" of oil rig to appear under water too and fade away. (Masking in gimp, so it works with any other water grf too)

Anyway, quoting Wacki...Tramtadadá, I present you with this. It's supposed to be 2x3 so I put it into middle of that thing. And Wacki, if you have time, you could make the heliport part go out more, Try to have a helicopter land on it..you'll see. the sea-level in this pic is the area of oil rig.
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I will update wiki too.

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EDIT: Sorry, I now noticed that on the screenshot the place, where fire should be is not seen. Will repair in no time :)

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:47 pm 
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Cool.
As you wrote it looks a bit weird when helicopter lands on it. Look at that:
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Another post another tar. Now its time for rails:
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:52 pm 
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Can't help it until Wacki gives me new sprite :D
Lord..and because you made a screenshot, then I won't post mine again :D

EDIT: Tou critiscize my work, I'll critiscize your's :twisted: :D
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:25 pm 
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I tested the new squares, it works pretty well but there are weird things :

http://satan2k.servhome.org/weird1.png
http://satan2k.servhome.org/weird2.png
http://satan2k.servhome.org/weird3.png

I think that it can be fixed ;-)

@lordazamath : the oilrig rocks!. Nice encoding ;)

(forgot the T ... :oops: )


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:33 pm 
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But there's everything okay. If you are using elevated it looks like that. And about second - because grass is covering it.

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lordazamath: But what are you talking about. There's everything good.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:40 pm 
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the first and second screeshot were the elevated ones

the third is the not elevated one


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:53 pm 
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By second I meant third.

Sorry - no more .tars today.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:57 am 
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One remark: I think the stem ( I do not know the right word for it, I mean the big log on the bottom of the tree) does look a little too big.

Those roots appear to be spooky. :mrgreen:
Also, please, darken the white parts of the tunnels. I love how you blended grass on top of tunnels.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:43 pm 
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Soeb wrote:
lordazamath: But what are you talking about. There's everything good.


Critiscism can be positive too sometimes...Especially, If you didn't upload screenshot by yourself..Other thing is that you should poke Ben_ to finish the rails..In all of their glory :)

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Critiscism can be positive too sometimes...So I now ask for critiscism for this thing...transmitter ->
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As I can understand, it was Athanasios, who drew the mouse pointer..So if you'd be so kind, draw the pointer with square footer too, so I can replace all sprites which have something about transmitter (You can see the cursor in my screenshot..You'll understand what I mean? Yes? Good. :) )

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:00 pm 
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You're right.

That transmitter looks good.

Another .tar - now with screenshot:
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No screenshot's for that.

So waiting for other railways.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:10 pm 
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At your screenshot...
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number 1 places need rising with pngcodec 1 px
2 & 3 & 4 the foundations are seen under them...not good.

And one question now....Are we going to use GeekToo's grass or Ben's as official? the Ben_'s grass has other sprites too, which represent cleared land...

EDIT: And with your pack, the transmitter looks even better :D

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:10 pm 
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number 1 places need rising with pngcodec 1 px

Fixed - will be updated tomorrow with all other things - and if Ben_Robbins will finnish those rails they will be in this "pack".

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2 & 3 & 4 the foundations are seen under them...not good.

I know. It needs raising, but when you raise one you need to raise another. It will take too much time and I'm lazy. :lol:
OK today, tomorrow I will do it.

@EDIT: Updated. To lazy to make screenshot - but it looks the same but without the problems:
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:17 pm 
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OMG i see some great improvement:) keep it up, if i can help just tell me:) ,my last work here was the depot lolz

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:26 pm 
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lordazamath wrote:
Are we going to use GeekToo's grass or Ben's as official?


There is no such thing as my grass or Ben's grass. My grass started because the resized tiles (to 64px)of Ben were considered too bland ( also by Ben himself ) and he asked me to do some resizing and optimizing for the 64px tiles. So they are supposed to complement each other when the 2 extra zoom levels come back.

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EDIT: And with your pack, the transmitter looks even better :D


Funny to see that the tiles that I started off with are considered to be in the pack again as official, after asking for feedback about the grass multiple times, and spending a lot of time to improve them according to the feedback.
Please read the discussion on:
viewtopic.php?p=598953#p598953 and following pages.

Or is it just the fact that the set is not complete yet, cause that can always be worked upon, or that they drifted away too far from Ben's 256 px set to be compatible( which can also be improved)?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:33 pm 
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Come on..don't take it like this...Your grass is very good..I just mentioned, that ben_'s grass has the half-grown tiles too, which is the base of the transmitter, which makes them better for transmitter..And I used it because I downloaded all Soeb's work. It's not like, your work is bad..They are just too different now to be compared...Your grass now looks different too, it's darker and has more height than Ben_'s. But in case your sprites will be at small zoom and ben's on large zoom, there can't be even no argue...Ever wondered why I had two screenshots?

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