Patch: Supplied cargo (in trunk r12596)

athanasios · **Joined:** Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:09 am **Posts:** 3138

Industries produce goods. So "produce" is not good choice.
What about "generate"?

Bilbo · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:24 am

Generate? that sounds like the goods are magically appearing at the station somehow.

We all know what that thing means, but we can't find a word for it :)

Perhaps using completely different word like "Production:" or "Industry:" or "Industry production:" for it.

sc79 · **Joined:** Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:51 am **Posts:** 585

Supplies makes perfect sense to me. You 'supply' an industry with raw items, it 'supplies' your station/network with goods. Whether you take advantage of that supply (station ratings) is a separate matter; the goods are still 'there', with the potential to transport them. I doubt theres anything that will better convey this exact situation (both the 'production' and the 'not-quite-guaranteed' aspect), and even if someone has an 'ahh ha' moment and pulls one out of nowhere, It will almost certainly loose all context when translated to the other ~35 supported languages. Keep it simple IMO.

Bilbo · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:58 pm

sc79 wrote:

~35 supported languages.

39

Roujin · **Joined:** Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:07 am **Posts:** 1884

Bilbo wrote:

sc79 wrote:

~35 supported languages.

39

That's <=10% (rounded) off, so his statement is valid :lol:

athanasios · **Joined:** Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:09 am **Posts:** 3138

Supplies is a good word to choose.
Another word we can use is "export".
From Merriam Webster:
export

Quote:

Function:
verb
Etymology:
Middle English, from Latin exportare, from ex- + portare to carry — more at fare
Date:
15th century

transitive verb 1 : to carry away : remove 2 : to carry or send (as a commodity) to some other place (as another country) intransitive verb : to export something abroad

fare

Quote:

Function:
intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s):
fared; far·ing
Etymology:
Middle English faren, from Old English faran; akin to Old High German faran to go, Latin portare to carry, Greek peran to pass through, poros passage, journey
Date:
before 12th century

sc79 · **Joined:** Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:51 am **Posts:** 585

Quote:

39

Ingame options lists 38... 2 are english (uk/us), and 'original vehicle names' isnt a language IMO, so that leaves 35 'others'

Yexo · **Joined:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:49 pm **Posts:** 3653

sc79 wrote:

Quote:

39

Ingame options lists 38... 2 are english (uk/us), and 'original vehicle names' isnt a language IMO, so that leaves 35 'others'

You'r not counting english at all

There are 35 others + english so 36 languages supported.

Bilbo · **Posted:** Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:46 pm

sc79 wrote:

Quote:

39

Ingame options lists 38... 2 are english (uk/us), and 'original vehicle names' isnt a language IMO, so that leaves 35 'others' :)

Oops ... I mislooked, the 39th language was the ".svn" subdirectory :)

Well, if you count us/uk/original vehicles english as one language (or multiple dialects of one language) you should probably group other languages too:

simplified_chinese.txt
traditional_chinese.txt

brazilian_portuguese.txt
portuguese.txt

norwegian_bokmal.txt
norwegian_nynorsk.txt

So 3 languages less in fact, so we have only 32 languages (including english)

sc79 · **Joined:** Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:51 am **Posts:** 585

While I'm fairly sure that 'supplies' means the same in 'us english' and 'uk english', I'm not confident enough of my chinese, portuguese or norwegian to know if it would translate the same in both, so I counted separately

Quote:

You'r not counting english at all

There are 35 others + english so 36 languages supported.

Of course not. I said "when translated to the other ~35 supported languages". In the context of my post, I stand by my original count, dammit! :roll:

Roujin · **Joined:** Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:07 am **Posts:** 1884

I've updated the patch to revision 11861. Enjoy.

Roujin · **Joined:** Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:07 am **Posts:** 1884

Okay, i've made a new version and updated to the newest revision (r12035). It also includes some bugfixes and improvements.
Download in first post.

Changelog

Changes:
- Adapted new code in trunk that resizes the window when the "Accepts" text is too long to my own means ("Improved" in my opinion). Window gets not only bigger when text is too long, but always the fitting size. Plus the "Supplies" text always starts right below the end of the "Accepts" text (nifty eh?

)

Fixes:
- Houses that produced custom cargo (namely TTRS Hotels with ECS Town vector enabled) broke something. Now able to handle custom production of up to 256 cargoes. (That's the hardcoded limit anyways)
- Last version skipped checking tiles that are within the tile(s) of the station placement selection (because that's how the original function worked - Only god, Chris Sawyer and maybe the AI knows why). Now they are also checked.

Credits:
- Sorry to Belugas for wasting your time with stupid questions ^_^'

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Please comment and report bugs if you find something.

Trond · **Posted:** Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:10 pm

Could we please have an update on this patch, I'm addicted so, its one of the patches I gotta have on my game...

It seem to work OK eventough BOTTD gives an error...

Code:

patching file `src/station_cmd.cpp'
Hunk #1 FAILED at 466.
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to src/station_cmd.cpp.rej

Avant Cipher · **Joined:** Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:57 pm **Posts:** 1

"Transports"

Roujin · **Joined:** Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:07 am **Posts:** 1884

rediff for r12320.

Trond · **Posted:** Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:19 am

Thanks for update!

jaybud4 · **Joined:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:13 am **Posts:** 116

I suggest we use Supplies. It would make more sense if instead of Accepts we had Demands, as it goes with Supplies... Supply and demand, the foundation of the entire US economy...

Quote:

Industries produce goods. So "produce" is not good choice.

Uh... How does that work exactly? I'm pretty sure that if we place a train station by say an oil refinery, said oil refinery would be PRODUCING goods...
Produces or Provides would go with Accepts...

T-Unit · **Posted:** Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:53 pm

jaybud4 wrote:

I suggest we use Supplies. It would make more sense if instead of Accepts we had Demands, as it goes with Supplies... Supply and demand, the foundation of the entire US economy...

Sounds good to me, makes good sense.

Quote:

Uh... How does that work exactly? I'm pretty sure that if we place a train station by say an oil refinery, said oil refinery would be PRODUCING goods...
Produces or Provides would go with Accepts...

Yeah but only if oil is delivered there...

jaybud4 · **Joined:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:13 am **Posts:** 116

T-Unit wrote:

Yeah but only if oil is delivered there...

Maybe so, but common sense dictates:
Accepts Oil
Produces Goods

It really gets wacky if you get two different industries together:

Accepts Oil, Steel, Livestock, Grain
Produces Wood, Goods

Course, some of this might not make so much sense with passengers/mail for cities:

Accepts Passengers, Mail
Produces Passengers, Mail

So then we use Supply/Demand:
Demands Oil
Supplies Goods

Demands Passengers, Mail
Supplies Passengers, Mail

Demands Wood
Supplies Goods

Demands Steel, Livestock, Grain
Supplies Goods

See where I'm going with this?

sc79 · **Joined:** Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:51 am **Posts:** 585

Stations are the link between an industry and the network; as such, they accept goods from elsewhere, and supply them for pickup. They don't demand materials, nor do any of the actual production (these are both industry actions).

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