Merging single track branch into double mainline?

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Merging single track branch into double mainline?

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There is some interesting design examples of junctions with priority, but mostly of them assume merging two one-way lanes.
I have following problem: double track mainline with single track branch line, mainline should have priority in both direction (including going from mainline to branch line).
It is plain one-level junction (freight trains from branch line are heavy and not going frequently).

Unfortunately, attempt with using presignals fails, because train on mainline (going up on the pict) must wait, even if train from the other direction (from left to down on the pict) is going safely trough junction, or if freight train just already passed from:
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How to solve such problem safely (without these aesthetically looking "track logic")?
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Re: Merging single track branch into double mainline?

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Use path signals everywhere?

As for priority, I'd make the branch earlier, and use a tunnel or bridge to avoid blocking the main line
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Re: Merging single track branch into double mainline?

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Just eliminate the little NW to SE section of track between the double track and then use a crossover piece between the double tracks and stations.

(Course it would help to have the single track run into the upper double track.)
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Re: Merging single track branch into double mainline?

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In this particular case, using multilevel crossing is of course possible, but sometimes it is problematic due to space limitation or heavy trains (I'm using 4x multiplier and 7% grade).

Finally I used PBS instead of combo and additional unused track to trigger block signal:
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BTW, I wonder if all those exit/entry/combo signals are still useful or rather obsolete?
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Re: Merging single track branch into double mainline?

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Never ever put signals on single tracks that trains can go both directions on. Unless in very specific situations and even then only 2 way path signals.
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Emperor Jake wrote:Never ever put signals on single tracks that trains can go both directions on. Unless in very specific situations and even then only 2 way path signals.
Even when there's just one train on that line?
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Ivir Baggins wrote:
Emperor Jake wrote:Never ever put signals on single tracks that trains can go both directions on. Unless in very specific situations and even then only 2 way path signals.
Even when there's just one train on that line?
Even then I would place 2 way path signals, just to prevent deadlocks. It can always happen that a train suddenly takes that track because other tracks are occupied and that track also goes to where the train wants to be (or because it wants servicing on a depot along that line).
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