Timetables - a patch, and a request for comments

[Rubidium]

Yes

[Toni Babelony]

Yes

That's a quick comment ^^ Thanks! *continues experimenting*

God, this patch is so awesome with PBS and Pax. Destinations! I'll post some screenshots when my first mainline with branches is completed! (Timing the express trains between the slow trains will give me a headache)

[Ameecher]

Is this available in ticks as well because I use the timetable feature with ticks rather than days as using days in conjuction with the day length patch means that times are longer than I want.

Nice idea though, finally an organised network!

[Toni Babelony]

I've got a suggestion for this patch. It might be hard to code, but it would come in very handy when planning a network. Especially when you have a lot of trains on the go!

How about making a graphical timetable where you can see if all trains are balanced and when they are occupying any tracks? This site explains it a bit further: http://www.hacon.de/tps/index.shtml Also a website which might help with the coding works: http://wiki.tcl.tk/19893

This might have been suggested before, but I'm sure this feature would come in very handy.

[peebee]

Maybe I'm just to stupid for this patch, but it still will not work correctly. Can anybody explain how to adjust the timetable the way that the trains with the same timetable will be evenly spread?

[Alberth]

does http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Timetable serve your needs?

[peebee]

Thanks for the link but the problem is, that the patch explained on that page (the "orginal" timetable-patch) has the timetable based auto-separation patch included. In case of Maedhros' patch this kind of seperation isn't included. That's why I'm looking for the correct adjustment of this patch to have both timetables and auto-seperation.

[Teeg]

Here's how I'm working it at present:

1) Have a vehicle run the route and autofill the timetable. Let it keep running through a second circuit.
2) Buy the other vehicles you want to run on the route, and add them to the cycle so they're following the first vehicle.
3) When the first vehicle arrives at the first stop, hit the "automatically separate" button. The other vehicles will be assigned proportionate start dates and they'll separate automatically.

[peebee]

Thanks für your help.

[_Robbie_]

Hi Maedhros! I hope you didn't give up this idea...From what I've seen it's working fine already, so this might be the reason for few comments .

[St256]

Maybe this is more a general timetable problem, but as you are already improving the timetable functionality, you may also have an easy fix for it:

A train is scheduled to stay for a given time at a passenger station.
It arrives at the station, loads all waiting passengers.
During loading, additional passengers arrive -> The train loads the additional passengers, waiting time is up.
While the train loads the passengers, additional passengers arrive -> The train loads the additional passengers.
While the train loads the passengers, additional passengers arrive -> The train loads the additional passengers.
...

This continues until the train is full or (by change) no passengers arrive while loading the already waiting ones and completely destroys the timetable.
The same example is also valid for cargo stations with high throughput (e.g. transfer stations).

As a solution, if a timetable is set, loading of cargo/passengers should only be done while the train is not late. I am aware that this might result in cargo left back at the station, but if the waiting time is set reasonably high, the train should be filled to a good percentage (even full?) and also keep to its timetable.

[Roest]

Maedhros are you still maintaining this?

[Maedhros]

I'm not at the moment, but I'll revisit it after my exams finish in a few weeks.

[bokkie]

I use timetables to automagically seperate vehicles (busses) so thanks for your patch (used Magicbuzz's patch earlier), it didn't work the way I expected in the first few minutes I tried it but with the explanation above it'll probably work out (will comment later on that!).
There is one question I have: since the driving and loading don't always take the same amount of time, loading times can be adjusted upwards to give vehicles time to compensate for this. The downside of this is that stations get clogged. Adding bays parallel or serial doesn't always work that good because vehicles don't behave that intelligent when looking for free bays. The solution I thought of is adding a visit to the depot at the end of the timetable, with a set waiting time. I'd prefer them to wait there instead of on a crowded station, which happens often at end of lines in my network. The problem is that it is not possible to set a waiting time at depots... is there a better solution which I'm overlooking or would that be a good addition to the current system?

EDIT: auto-seperation didn't seem to work good but I believe it's a problem with the version I'm using in Roest's Patchpack v9.

[Eddi]

i have updated this patch to r14005

made a class of the SetDateWindow

PS: why is this thread not in Development?

edit: tiny error with saveload.cpp

[PhilSophus]

I'm working on a patch with working title "real timetables". Among others, it should make it easier for the player to create a system of highly synchronized timetables and lines with fixed train headway.

For that it would be quite practical, if I could use part of the patch in this thread (mainly the start date stuff).
Is that okay?

Of course, due credit will be given and my resulting patch will be published in the forum when it's done (quite soon probably).

[Brianetta]

For that it would be quite practical, if I could use part of the patch in this thread (mainly the start date stuff).
Is that okay?

I think you can probably take it as read that a published patch against software licensed under the GPL, is also GPL.

[PhilSophus]

I think you can probably take it as read that a published patch against software licensed under the GPL, is also GPL.

I know, but I consider it good style to ask anyway (at least to keep the original author informed).

I attach the current version of the patch (as posted by Eddi) updated to current trunk r14108.

[Mondane]

Maybe this patch can collaborate with http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... h&start=80 (Timetable based separation patch)

[PhilSophus]

Maybe this patch can collaborate with http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... h&start=80 (Timetable based separation patch)

You may want to look at the patch I just released, since it "steals" features (and code) from both patches.