OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread

planetmaker · **Posted:** Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:18 am

Automatical and manual adjustment of purchase and running costs now available :-)

NARS2, UKRS2, Tropical Refurbishment Set, 2ccTrainset, Japanese Trainset and Swedish Trains are automatically detected and costs adjusted, if the default automatic cost adjustment is not manually overridden by these settings. Users of OpenTTD's nightlies will be presented the nice parameter window as shown below, users of the stable version will still have to resort to number-only configuration like 0 0 x y where x and y are the values for the running costs:

Code:

/*
 * ********************************************
 * Parameter 3: Running Costs
 * 0: Automatic (default)
 * 1: 1/256 
 * 2: 1/128
 * ...
 * 9: 1
 * ...
 * 18: 512x
 * ********************************************
 */

/*
 * ********************************************
 * Parameter 4: Purchase Costs
 * 0: Automatic (default)
 * 1: 1/256 
 * 2: 1/128
 * ...
 * 9: 1
 * ...
 * 18: 512x
 * ********************************************
 */

NekoMaster wrote:

I think theres a grf out there that allows all locomotives in all climates but what about intergrating that feature (along with the original vehicle names\realistic stats)
I noticed that after 1986 standard gauage rail wagons\cars start disappering and when it gets to the 2000's only the passenger, mail, and armored boxcar are left. Bug?
Also, how about a Trailer on flatbed (aka TOFC) just for fun and to make truck to rail transfers of goods and food a little more realistic (I see TOFC's wizz by on the CP Rails once in awhile, usualy hauling goods TOFC's (tools, electronics, etc))

* Having a manual climate switch is one of the ideas, that's already noted: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1753
* The rail wagons disappearing that early is a bug, yes. Thanks for the notice, seems that copying the values out of OpenTTD's source either failed or is not that straight forward...
* Trailer of flatbed is a nice idea for representing goods transport with that wagon indeed.
Thanks for the wagon speed limits, I'll have a thorough look into that later.

NekoMaster · **Posted:** Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:38 pm

planetmaker wrote:

Automatical and manual adjustment of purchase and running costs now available :-)

NARS2, UKRS2, Tropical Refurbishment Set, 2ccTrainset, Japanese Trainset and Swedish Trains are automatically detected and costs adjusted, if the default automatic cost adjustment is not manually overridden by these settings. Users of OpenTTD's nightlies will be presented the nice parameter window as shown below, users of the stable version will still have to resort to number-only configuration like 0 0 x y where x and y are the values for the running costs:

Code:

/*
 * ********************************************
 * Parameter 3: Running Costs
 * 0: Automatic (default)
 * 1: 1/256 
 * 2: 1/128
 * ...
 * 9: 1
 * ...
 * 18: 512x
 * ********************************************
 */

/*
 * ********************************************
 * Parameter 4: Purchase Costs
 * 0: Automatic (default)
 * 1: 1/256 
 * 2: 1/128
 * ...
 * 9: 1
 * ...
 * 18: 512x
 * ********************************************
 */

NekoMaster wrote:

I think theres a grf out there that allows all locomotives in all climates but what about intergrating that feature (along with the original vehicle names\realistic stats)
I noticed that after 1986 standard gauage rail wagons\cars start disappering and when it gets to the 2000's only the passenger, mail, and armored boxcar are left. Bug?
Also, how about a Trailer on flatbed (aka TOFC) just for fun and to make truck to rail transfers of goods and food a little more realistic (I see TOFC's wizz by on the CP Rails once in awhile, usualy hauling goods TOFC's (tools, electronics, etc))

* Having a manual climate switch is one of the ideas, that's already noted: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1753
* The rail wagons disappearing that early is a bug, yes. Thanks for the notice, seems that copying the values out of OpenTTD's source either failed or is not that straight forward...
* Trailer of flatbed is a nice idea for representing goods transport with that wagon indeed.
Thanks for the wagon speed limits, I'll have a thorough look into that later.

If you feel like tweaking the speed limits a bit go ahead, if you want limits for the passenger , mail, and armored cars then lemme know.

Zephyris · **Joined:** Wed May 16, 2007 4:59 pm **Posts:** 2624

And some steel flatbed graphics, including 2 loading stages, 2 colour schemes, 6 variants and two cargo "loading methods" (download the zip to see what I mean!).

planetmaker · **Posted:** Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:45 am

Nice again :-)

I'd call it lying and standing positions for the rolls of steel. I wonder does it make sense to mix it arbitrarily within a train? Or only among different trains?

Update from the last evening: livery override for all MU trains for the valuables wagon (the turbotrain uses the same graphics currently for mail and valuables) and the possibility to manually select the climate which is used for the engine choice (independent of the actual climate). The crazy ones can also select all engines in all climates (makes it also for me easy to test changes without the need to check each climate ;-)

).

colossal404 wrote:

Shouldn't the locomotives and the train cars be positioned down tot he dark grey line in the buy-menu?

Thanks, that's partially dealt with now (for all wagons and MU trains). I'll need to provide sprites for all other engines as well in order to solve it entirely. That'll be done in time, too, though.

EDIT: done now ;-)

Kogut · **Posted:** Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:05 am

In train 7 loco is lower than wagons and it would be nice to do sth with yellow, like in 4.

planetmaker · **Posted:** Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:12 am

Kogut wrote:

In train 7 loco is lower than wagons and it would be nice to do sth with yellow, like in 4.

He, yes. I made the screenshot before I applied the offset correction for depots :-)

Zephyris · **Joined:** Wed May 16, 2007 4:59 pm **Posts:** 2624

I would say randomise the standing/lying graphics within a train... If it was randomised on a per train basis it would look like two different cargoes.

planetmaker · **Posted:** Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:28 am

Right. Here we go in r183:

Btw, you should still adjust your colour palette ;-)

planetmaker · **Posted:** Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:15 pm

Now, I think there have been sufficient changes to warrant a release in order to make the recent additions available to a big larger public. Translators may want to update the enclosed texts and parameter descriptions so that the updates can become part of the next release(s). The English language file is attached below. Please provide translations UTF-8 encoded.

Also I got already the first request for new graphics:
"the dual head engines (those that take cargo and can be refitted) shouldn't look like passenger wagons when e.g. mail is transported" :-)

- that affects the Dash, Manley-Morel and SH125 engines.

Zephyris · **Joined:** Wed May 16, 2007 4:59 pm **Posts:** 2624

planetmaker wrote:

"the dual head engines (those that take cargo and can be refitted) shouldn't look like passenger wagons when e.g. mail is transported" :-)

- that affects the Dash, Manley-Morel and SH125 engines.

Hmmm, nice idea, I'll have a look at that

It is just those three trains right?

colossal404 · **Posted:** Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:02 pm

Zephyris wrote:

planetmaker wrote:

"the dual head engines (those that take cargo and can be refitted) shouldn't look like passenger wagons when e.g. mail is transported" :-)

- that affects the Dash, Manley-Morel and SH125 engines.

Hmmm, nice idea, I'll have a look at that

It is just those three trains right?

And (I think) the Turner Turbo and the X2001 monorail.

Zephyris · **Joined:** Wed May 16, 2007 4:59 pm **Posts:** 2624

Like these?

NekoMaster · **Posted:** Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:47 pm

If I find the specs for the Locomotives in the Arctic and Tropical climates would you guys include "Realistic Locomotive Specs" for a parameter?

Zephyris · **Joined:** Wed May 16, 2007 4:59 pm **Posts:** 2624

Btw. the sprite sizes and offsets will be the same as the existing opengfx engine sprites, and the palette issue should be fixed...

*edit* And car flatbed sprites... CC and 2CC cars as cargo (is this ok for random recolouring?), standard flatbed offsets and correct palette

Zephyris · **Joined:** Wed May 16, 2007 4:59 pm **Posts:** 2624

And some lumber style flatbeds...

Zephyris · **Joined:** Wed May 16, 2007 4:59 pm **Posts:** 2624

And some processed metal flatbed sprites, could be aluminium/sheet metal/large processed ingots...

Zephyris · **Joined:** Wed May 16, 2007 4:59 pm **Posts:** 2624

And a second kind of containier-like wagons, this time fixed boxes rather than removable intermodal-like containers on flatbeds...

planetmaker · **Posted:** Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:44 am

Very nice

- that'll keep me busy already for a bit, especially as an an otherwise also busy rest of the week is ahead and also have some nice sprites from DanMacK waiting for integration as well (a caboose, a few updated and some new engines for the arctic climate) ;-)

Could you check the sprites for the half loaded lumber and metal? I fear the cargo might be jumping when the wagons drive around a corner.

NekoMaster · **Posted:** Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:50 am

Zephyris wrote:

And some processed metal flatbed sprites, could be aluminium/sheet metal/large processed ingots...

THis kinda looks like closed Coil Cars. Perhaps you could include a open sprite for when its loading

What about a Auto rack and a inter model container car (like the ones usually seen in North America)

Zephyris · **Joined:** Wed May 16, 2007 4:59 pm **Posts:** 2624

Good spot, the 4th and 8th orientations of the metal flatebed are swapped and the 5th of the lumber flatbeds is an identical copy of the 1st... I'll try and fix them at some point tomorrow, within the same offsets so you can just slot the new images into place

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