Dutch Trainset v2.0 being developed

Purno · **Posted:** Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:56 am

Sumting wong with headlights

I don't know exactly what's what, but my guess is the upper lights (above the window) are the rear lights.

Voyager One · **Posted:** Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:47 am

Aha, I see it, my bad. Thanks Purno!

EDIT: Corrected.

FooBar · **Posted:** Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:39 pm

I like

At this point all diesel and electric engines are coded with correct properties and full livery refit capabilities. For those who want to try them out in an actual game, I made a special trial release with just the diesel and electric engines. The other stuff from the set isn't really usable, and left out so that it doesn't clutter the purchase menu.

If you want to give this a whirl, you can start a game from 1927, altough you're then stuck with a 30 km/h engine until around 1950, so that may be a better starting year. Eventually this gap will be filled by the steam eninges and MUs of course! Make sure to load an additional trainset or set the parameter to keep the default vehicles if you want wagons with these engines!

You can download it here: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchtrains/releases

Next I will look into finishing the metros.

Voyager One · **Posted:** Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:04 pm

Please, hold on with these Mat 35s-46s. I still haven't finished them all and I think I spotted an error on most of them. Damn!

Hyronymus · **Posted:** Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:22 pm

Voyager One wrote:

Please, hold on with these Mat 35s-46s. I still haven't finished them all and I think I spotted an error on most of them. Damn!

Where, they look stunning and correct to me.

Voyager One · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:43 am

Well, I've noticed just yesterday that some carriages have Jacob's bogies, some have "standard" two-axle bogies and I've made them all with the first ones. Fortunately, only three out of seven files have been wrong.

If you're wondering, I'm not posting all of them here as they are very similar. You can find them all on devzone here:
http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3632

Hyronymus · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:50 am

Voyager One wrote:

Well, I've noticed just yesterday that some carriages have Jacob's bogies, some have "standard" two-axle bogies and I've made them all with the first ones. Fortunately, only three out of seven files have been wrong.

If you're wondering, I'm not posting all of them here as they are very similar. You can find them all on devzone here:
http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3632

Oh, that indeed is a trap with these consists

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FooBar · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:33 am

Request for steam train research

The steam trains currently are a bit underrepresented in both the set and the infosheet. Therefore I would like to ask for help finding information about the Dutch steam trains in order to get a nice selection of steamers to go into the set as well as an infosheet that is as complete as possible.

So, what can you do if you want to help:
- Look at the infosheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... Wp4NzJ2enc
- Search for missing properties: for each row that has a train name up front, we need all the cells from "introduced" to "tender weight" filled in order to code the vehicle correctly.
- The "terminated" column indicates the year in which the train was last used in commercial service. If you find multiple values for power, speed, TE, then pick the highest one.

- Some trains have had multiple liveries. If that is the case, we need for each livery when it was first seen in commercial service.
- If the information for instance only specifies "livery introduced at the beginning of the 30s", then make a guesstimate and add a question mark to the year you chose. Then we know it's not entirely accurate, but then we can use it until something better pops up.

- We need some more steamers.
- You can figure out what series are interesting to add to the set. Series with a high engine count are always good.
- Small series are particularly nice if there is a large gap in the introduction of new engines.
- And of course find the same properties for this to-be-drawn engine.

If you're interested in helping out, then just copy the table from the infosheet to a spreadsheet. Save it to some format MS Excel can open and I'll then merge the information back into the infosheet. You can also just make a forum post with a list of properties you've found.
If you're also interested in doing research on cargo wagons later on, then send me a PM for editing rights of the infosheet (I need the email address of your Google account).

All small bits help! No need to find everything that is missing in one go!

Voyager One · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:14 am

FYI, Mat '35, '36, '40 & '46 stats thoroughly checked and re-checked. All of them are correct now.

FooBar · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:03 pm

Voyager One wrote:

FYI, Mat '35, '36, '40 & '46 stats thoroughly checked and re-checked.

Thanks!

Voyager One · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:12 pm

You have to see this one... :lol:

What a nice template... :lol:

FooBar · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:45 pm

Man, that must have been a lot of work. Awesome!

Voyager One · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:39 pm

Quite some but it was certainly worth it!

jor[D]1 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:23 pm

Your streamlined mat'** is beautiful.
Today a new 1600 color has been seen on dutch rails. DB schenker has painted a 1600 in DB color scheme. complete red, now gray band around the windows. and a small DB logo on the side. (almost looks like a fire engine).

20/02/2012 | Rotterdam by Sander Broerse, on Flickr

DBS will paint more 1600 red.

FooBar · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:31 pm

That's an easy enough recolour, simple combination of the Railion and HUSA liveries!

ZxBiohazardZx · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:28 pm

FooBar wrote:

Request for steam train research

The steam trains currently are a bit underrepresented in both the set and the infosheet. Therefore I would like to ask for help finding information about the Dutch steam trains in order to get a nice selection of steamers to go into the set as well as an infosheet that is as complete as possible.

So, what can you do if you want to help:
- Look at the infosheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... Wp4NzJ2enc
- Search for missing properties: for each row that has a train name up front, we need all the cells from "introduced" to "tender weight" filled in order to code the vehicle correctly.
- The "terminated" column indicates the year in which the train was last used in commercial service. If you find multiple values for power, speed, TE, then pick the highest one.

- Some trains have had multiple liveries. If that is the case, we need for each livery when it was first seen in commercial service.
- If the information for instance only specifies "livery introduced at the beginning of the 30s", then make a guesstimate and add a question mark to the year you chose. Then we know it's not entirely accurate, but then we can use it until something better pops up.

- We need some more steamers.
- You can figure out what series are interesting to add to the set. Series with a high engine count are always good.
- Small series are particularly nice if there is a large gap in the introduction of new engines.
- And of course find the same properties for this to-be-drawn engine.

If you're interested in helping out, then just copy the table from the infosheet to a spreadsheet. Save it to some format MS Excel can open and I'll then merge the information back into the infosheet. You can also just make a forum post with a list of properties you've found.
If you're also interested in doing research on cargo wagons later on, then send me a PM for editing rights of the infosheet (I need the email address of your Google account).

All small bits help! No need to find everything that is missing in one go!

http://www.nicospilt.com/index_index_stoom.htm

its not much, but more then nothing

also the http://nmld.locaalspoor.nl/ has some interesting facts on some of the steamlocomotives in/from NL

Purno · **Posted:** Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:51 am

Voyager One wrote:

You have to see this one... :lol:

What a nice template... :lol:

Nice work on the Mat 40, but I'm afraid I have to inform you that the lines aren't supposed to be yellow, but are beige / tan instead.

Voyager One · **Posted:** Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:04 am

Actually it is yellow. Arthurstreinenpagina is wrong, also, MANY liveries are missing there. I'm using this:

http://www.seinarm.nl/Stroomlijn/elektrisch/mat405.aspx

It's much better, with more info a livery pictures.

EDIT: Navigate on the bottom trough other "Mat"s.

EDIT 2: Take a closer look at your picture. That is supposed to be "grass green". Is it? :lol:

FooBar · **Posted:** Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:12 am

Not beige, but a lighter colour yellow.
More like a 'baby-yellow' (i.e. the yellow that matches baby-blue and -pink), something like this.

In the sprites I think the yellow is too dark. Somehow I didn't notice that yesterday :S

@Voyager One: would my quick-and-dirty DB Schenker 1600 be acceptable?

Purno · **Posted:** Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:33 am

Voyager One wrote:

Actually it is yellow. Arthurstreinenpagina is wrong, also, MANY liveries are missing there. I'm using this:

http://www.seinarm.nl/Stroomlijn/elektrisch/mat405.aspx

It's much better, with more info a livery pictures.

EDIT: Navigate on the bottom trough other "Mat"s.

EDIT 2: Take a closer look at your picture. That is supposed to be "grass green". Is it? :lol:

Another useful site may be "Centraal Station".

Whatever we call the color exactly, it certainly is a lot lighter than the current NS yellow color

Considering the limited TT color palette, anything close to this would do I guess.

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