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 Post subject: Hungarian Set / Colossal404's projects
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:07 pm 
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Hungarian set is the comprehensive name of the Ikarus Set, the Hungarian Truck set and the MÁV Set.
I am the main drawer all of these, but Kirga usual to draw sometimes and the coding is by GL2.
But sometimes I have other, small projects, if I done with one, I will post it there.
Now, the GRFs:
Ikarus set:
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The aim of the set that model the legendary Hungarian bus factory's, Ikarus products.
The set:
The set contains 41 buses from 1939 to 2014. Some from among them did not exist, the products of the
fantasy. All buses can be refit to company colours, the local buses use largely 1st CC, the regionals and coaches uses 2nd CC. Some of the coaches can be fitted with air conditioning, it don't do anything, just eyecandy. Almost all buses changing as the time goes by, so keep watching for them :wink:
Here are a pic all of them (not up to date):
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1. line from left to right: 30, 55, 66, 60, 620, 630, 556, 180
2. line from left to right: 260 local, 260 regional, 280 local, 280 regional, 280 special painting, 282, 283, 284, 293, 263, 211, 266, 256, 250, 270, 254
3. line from left to right: 325, 350, 380NE, 396, E94, E94-15m, E95, E94G, E99, C80, C56
4. line from left to right: 405, 415 local, 415 regional, 435 local, 435 regional, 411, 412, 412-15m, 417, 417 regional, 417GG

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Parameter 1: If set to 1 company colours will be the default on all buses. Set to 0 (default) as spacer.
Parameter 2: If set to 1 the grf will disable CNG powered buses and stay them on diesel.
Currently working on: Done
Current status:
Drawings: 100%
Coding: 100%
Data: 100%
Changelogs:
-From 5.0 to 5.1
-From 5.1 to 5.2
Download link:
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File comment: Ikarus Set 5.3
ikarus2w.GRF [674.55 KiB]
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If any glitch found, please report it at this topic. Thanks!

Hungarian Truck Set (HTS):
The aim of the set that model the trucks what used in Hungary. So, not all of the trucks made in Hungary. Largely of them were from Europe, but the newer ones from west.
The set:
The set will be contains about 20 trucks from 1950 to 2008. There isn't fantasy models, all of them were based on a real truck.
These truck types will be in the set:
Praga 3VS: Image Based on this.
Praga made light trucks, the 3VS is the first model in the set at the moment.
Csepel 344:Image Based on this.
Csepel is a hungarian truck manufacturer, it comes after the WW II. The Csepel also do engines for early Ikarus buses.
Csepel D450:Image Based on this.
The D450 is a semitrailer version of the 344, it needs for the liquid cargoes.
Ifa W50:Image Based on this.
The Ifa is a legendary german truck manufacturer, the W50 is a really cheap, simple and reliable truck, but nowadays this type is getting really old, and don't meets the Euro qualification.
Tatra 148:Image Based on this. The 148 is a very robust dumper truck, but it's available in tanker version.
Rába U26:Image Based on this.
The Rába is a hungarian vehicle manufacturer. They do mainly engines, axles, and other vehicle components. The trucks, buses and tractors were secondary. The U26 is a flatbed truck with trailer, it can haul steel, wood and goods. It's a bit more expensive than the other trucks in its time, but it's the first truck with trailer.
Kamaz 6350:Image Based on this.
I know the 6350 is a later type, but I need this for something special in this time.
Kamaz 5511:Image Based on this.
The Kamaz is a russian truck manufacturer, they do powerful and massive trucks relatively cheap. The 5511 model is a simple truck sometimes with trailer.
Kamaz 5410:Image Based on this.
As I wrote it previously, this is a russian truck. The 5410 is the semitrailer version of 5511.
Tatra 815:Image Based on this.
Tatra is a czecho-slovakian truck manufacturer. The 815 only available in dumper version to transport bulk cargoes.
Mercedes Benz 709D:Image Based on this. 709D is a small german truck, it's useful to support low productivity banks.
Ifa L60:Image Based on this. L60 is another type of IFA. It has got more powerful engine, so it can haul a trailer and can go faster then the W50.
Man F90Image Based on this. F90 is largely used to transport grain in Hungary, but I draw a boxed version to transport goods. F90 is the first large truck in the set what comes from west Europe.
Mercedes Benz AtegoImage Based on this. Atego is a light truck, used to transport goods and mail, and in the game to transport valuables.
Man F2000:Image Based on this.
The Man is a german truck manufacturer. The F2000 is only available with semitrailer, it's the first with the new generation trailers.
Mercedes Benz Actros:Image Based on this.
The Mercedes Actros is only available as a car transporter truck, can carry only goods.
Renault magnum 440:Image Based on this.
Renault is a french truck manufacturer, and the Magun is the frequentest truck from them. The 440 got more power and it can goes faster than the Man F2000, but it's got the same capacity.
Tatra TerrNo:Image Based on this.
The redesigned version of the old 815's. It can go faster, and can haul a little more than it's predecessor
MAN TGA 35.350:Image Based on this. This type isn't used in Hungary, but the set needs a modern valuable transporter truck.
Renault Magnum 500:Image Based on this.
The Magnum 500 got more power and larger capaciy than 440, but it's got less speed. In the set it can haul heavy weight loads.
Currently working on: Drawing, information collection
Current status:
Drawings: 100%
Coding: 5%
Data: 100%
Download link:
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MÁV set:
The MÁV Set's aim to remodel the vehicles of the MÁV, the Hungarian State Railways company.
All of the vehicles based on a real one, but some of them were just planned to buy in reality.
The set:
The set will contins 7 steam engines, 7 diesels, 9 electric engines and 11 different types of multiple units from 1907 to 2010. The list of vehicles may expand, I don't know yet.
Some of the vehicles are too long for TTD scale and porice some bugs in tunnels and on bridges, so we have to code them as articulated vehicles. It's looks good on straight tracks, but on slopes and turns it's broke to two parts.
The donload link below is the 1.4 beta version, I'm working on a complete remake, like with the Ikarus set. In 1.4 some vehicles looks bad, sorry for that.
Currently working on: Drawing
Current status:
Drawings: 80%
Coding: 20%
Data: 85%
Download link:
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File comment: MÁV Set 1.4 Beta
mavsetw-1.4beta.zip [30 KiB]
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Homepage of these sets: openttd.info

Generic buses:
I made a small bus set in OpenGFX drawing style, it's not a part of a big project, just one separate GRF.
The set contains 13 buses, in 6 different brand.
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Current version is 1.2, if you have suggestion, please let me know.
Download link:
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 Post subject: Re: Hungarian Set / Colossal404's projects
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:08 pm 
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Great! I'm very much looking foward to the releases of these amazing GRFS!

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 Post subject: Re: Hungarian Set / Colossal404's projects
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Thanks! :D
You write the hungarian text without any translator? If yes, Your hungarian is quite good! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Hungarian Set / Colossal404's projects
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Yes, glad to find some other hungarians around the site.

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 Post subject: Re: Hungarian Set / Colossal404's projects
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Hm, but as I see, you live in the USA. You are with Hungarian ancestry and you moved out to the USA?
But this hungarian text isn't good as the previous. :)

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Yes exactly, I just came back from Budapest 2 weeks ago

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Actually, I always liked the Ikarus set.... my only problem was the incompatibility with LV4. I hope it is compatible with eGRVTS, because I use that nowadays.

An Ikarus-fanboy.

S jobban szeretek csendben lenni.

Keep it up.... unfortunately I can't draw nor code to help you.... and this is one of those things what I hate in myself.


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Thanks, but in the 0.7.x OpenTTD versions you can turn on the "Enable multiple newgrf engine sets" opion, and the you can use any other road vehicle grf with Ikarus set.

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The problem is not that, the price of the Ikarus buses is increased when the LV4 is loaded? Because this is inevitable in the game.

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Jó felfogású ember, aki nem ért a grfekhez, s csak Red Alert 2-t és Quake 3-at moddolt életében:

Mind az LV4 set, mind az eGRVTS set tartalmaz egy global multipliert a futó kötségben s az árban. Vagy teljesen eltérő árszámolásuk van... mert milliós árkülönbségek jönnek ki forintoknál. Ezért van az is, hogy csak a szerb villamoskészlet passzol az LV4hez.

De el kell, hogy mondjam, lenyűgöző, hogy a tavaly lerobbant, egyedüli buszunk is benne van a készletben! :shock: :mrgreen: :bow: Kár, hogy kirázódtak az üvegek belőle, s túl drága a Volánnak megcsinálni. "Ikarus évszázados története" a forrás?

OK, now something similar in English.

I'm not very sure about it, because I don't know anything about it, but I think there is a global multiplier or an alternative counting in costs both in eGRVTS and LV4. Because of this, the Ikarus buses are too expensive.

But the set is more than amazing. Even that unique bus was in that set, which was going on my route. Unfortunately his glasses were shaken out last year and it's too expensive to fix it.


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Nem tudok neki mit csinálni, sajnos az LV4-hez nem fog passzolni sose. Viszont készül a hozzávaló teherautó szett, azzal majd stimmelnek az árak.
Az egyedüli busz a 284-es lenne?

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I can't do anything to fix the prices, but the truck set for this is under progress.
The bus with broken glasses is the Ikarus 284?

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Találtam egy érdekességet. Az E94.14 finn megrendelésű 14,5 méteres Volvo alvázas busz, talán nem úgy kéne hívni. .15 Scania, ugyanígy, olyan van a Kapos Volánnak. Az E94-es 14,8 méteres Magyarországon futó variánsait amúgy E94.16-nak hívták (Euro 3-as blokk), ill. E94.18 (Euro 4-es blokk, Tisza Volán) Viszont nekem megvan az Ikarus-könyv, ami még technikai adatokat is közöl, tehát ily téren tudok segíteni. A másikra meg majd kitalálok valamit.
A 284-esből 10 darabos nullszéria létezett, 2008-ban négy még futott, a kétajtós E94.16-ból viszont csak egy - amiről ma semmit nem lehet tudni.
Apróság: A C56-os nem a '70-es évekbeli 256-os távolsági újrakiadása, az 256.00 volt. 1993 őszén készült el tajvani rendelésre az Ikarus 268, melyből az Alba Volán kérésére fejlesztették ki a 256.44/.42-t, s ez a típus a C56 alapja.
Nem lehetne FIRS/ECS kompatibilitás, túrabuszokkal? Az lenne a végső pont emelett. Ezért töröltem le az eredetit... asszem, nekem az volt meg valahol...
A teherautó-szettet várom!


Some techniacal minorities... I'm too lazy to translate it. I have a book about the whole Ikarus history, so I have technical details about all the Ikaruses which ever made.
Actually, there were 10 284s and according to my book, 4 of them are still on the road, which isn't true for the only 2-door version of the Ikarus E94.16.
Oh, addition. The C56 isn't based upon the old 256 from the '70s. It was based upon a remake of the Taiwanese Ikarus 268, the Ikarus 256.44/.42, designed for a Hungarian local transport company.
Would you mind adding some Tourists to the set? Then I'd totally vote for my dear old Ikaruses.
I'll wait for the truck-part as well!


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Én inkább csak simán 15m -esnek nevezném, mindenki azt a típust képzeli bele amelyiket akarja.
Lényegtelen hogy hogyan keletkezett a C56, de amúgy tudom hogy így született.
A FIRS/ECS kompatibilitás alatt azt érted hogy tudjon turistát is szállítani?

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I named the three axle E94 as E94 15m simly.
:] It doesn't matter where comes the C56 from, but I know it's history.
What do you mean under the FIRS/ECS compatibility? The coach buses can able to transport tourists?

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Igen és igen.
Ja, van magyar 396os is. Tizenkilencet adtak el Magyarországon.
DFe ha technikai információ kell, napi rendszerességel olvasom a fórumot, csak egy szavadba kerül.

Ok and yes.
Another thing: There are Hungarian 396s.
Then if any technical detail you need, call me. I'll gladly help.


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colossal404 wrote:
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I can't do anything to fix the prices, but the truck set for this is under progress.


Yes you can. I did it in the Dutch Tram Set, so it's certainly possible.

Here goes the theory:
- Detect LV4
- If LV4, set base cost multiplier to x8 (or whatever LV4 uses, I recall x8)
- Use set of Action0's with prices according to x8 multiplier
- If not LV4, set default TTD base cost multiplier
- Use set of Action0's with price according to default multiplier (i.e. what you have now)

If you like I can provide the commented source NFO of the Dutch Tram Set under the GPL license, or do a decode of the set yourself. In case of the latter the uncommented source is under the CC BY-NC-SA license. Ask me why that is if you're interested :P


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Err...no, I better not attempt that :wink:


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Nem lehetne FIRS/ECS kompatibilitás, túrabuszokkal?

FIRS doesn't do tourists, so no problems there. For ECS the vehicles need to be made refittable, not very complicated.

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Jó felfogású

If you want more than a few of us to read your posts, you'll put the English first. And then you'll leave out the Russian (or whatever-it-is) entirely. (For an explanation, see the "Smart Questions" document in my signature.)

Lrf, V xabj vg'f abg Ehffvna. Qb V ybbx yvxr V pner? (<--- Not Russian. Also not "whatever-it-is".)

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Would you mind respect other languages?

Your Smart Questions actually points to one thing... it's easier to make yourself understand if there are shared languages. Although both of us (the main developer and the question asker) know English, that language isn't our native. According to your Smart Questions, people should be clear as possible. Using native language (in this case, whatever-it-is) prevents problems occurring during translation.

Although I share my thoughts with everybody, because I used English after whatever-it-is.

Oh, and your Smart Questions actually have a 404 link about Whatever-it-is translation.

The writer of this text wouldn't like to sound harsh, just sound ordinary, without any offense. And he's still interested.
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DaleStan wrote:
If you want more than a few of us to read your posts, you'll put the English first.


Well, this is a Hungarian Set, so most people interested in this would be Hungarians. Besides, I would rather have someone who puts English after 100 other languages, than someone who doesn't put it in at all.

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Well, this is a Hungarian Set, so most people interested in this would be Hungarians.
But this is an English forum, and according to the forum rules all posts should be in English. Of course it's fine to provide an Hungarian translation besides the English, but English is the main forum language and as such should come first.

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Besides, I would rather have someone who puts English after 100 other languages, than someone who doesn't put it in at all.
If someone didn't put it in at all he'd be asked to take the discussion to pms because the offical forum language is English.

This will also be the my last post here for now as all this is offtopic. I wish you good luck with developing a nice newgrf.


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Graion Dilach wrote:
According to your Smart Questions
It's not mine. I just happen to link to it.

Graion Dilach wrote:
people should be clear as possible.
Does it not also say "Also ... write in English."? The "unless you know what your respondents' languages are" clause is irrelevant here. The only language you know that everyone here uses, at least semi-fluently, is ... ... English!

Furthermore, the forum rules specify that you are to "only post to the forum in English". Posting "only ... in English" means that you do not put any language other than English in your posts -- Specifically, in this case, no Hungarian.

If you wish to have a conversation in Hungarian, do so by private message.

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Oh, and your Smart Questions actually have a 404 link about Whatever-it-is translation.
Then tell someone who cares. Like maybe the person who actually maintains said document set. But do so in English.

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