Connex Melbourne EMU's

Comeng 523M · Post by **Comeng 523M** » 07 May 2007 03:54

Hi everyone,

I was just asking if there is a Victorian (As in Australian) train set, in particular Melbourne Suburban. If none exists maybe I'll create my own, So what do I need to know?

Post by **PikkaBird** » 07 May 2007 03:57

There was an Australian Set in development, but I think it was mainly NSW.

What do you need to know for creating a set? Well, the first thing to do is compile a list of the vehicles you'll want to include, and get statistics for them. The second thing you'll need to do is draw and code your first vehicle. It all gets easier after that.

Comeng 523M · Post by **Comeng 523M** » 07 May 2007 05:19

Well here's what I'd like to Include:

Tait: 1-8 car wooden EMU, Red livery, used 1924-1984

Harris: 4 and 7 car steel EMU, Blue "VicRail" livery, used 1955-1987

Hitachi: 3 and 6 car stainless steel EMU, Green and Gold "The Met" livery, used 1972-2004

Harris II: 4 car steel EMU rebuilt from Harris sets, Green and Gold "The Met" livery, used 1982-1995

Comeng: 3 and 6 car stainless steel EMU, Green and Gold "The Met" livery, used 1981-2003

EDI (Comeng II): 3 and 6 car stainless steel EMU, Blue and White "M>Train" livery, used 2002-2013

Siemens: 3 and 6 car stainless steel EMU, Blue and Yellow "Connex" livery, used 2003-2024

X'Trapolis 100: 3 and 6 car stainless steel EMU, Blue and Yellow "Connex" livery, used 2004-2028

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 07 May 2007 07:47

If you want to create your own train set, you'd need vehicles from 1920 to 2050, and about one new vehicle every 5 years, including MUs, Engines and Wagons. Then you gotta make a list of the pictures and stats. Pictures are used by artists to draw the sprites, stats are used by coders to code the sprites into a GRF file which can be used with TTDPatch and/or OpenTTD.

That's it very short. But the community is very short on coders.

Post by **Dave** » 07 May 2007 11:47

You could just have those there as an accompaniment to the original game's set.

They look pretty well spaced.

EirikhO · Post by **EirikhO** » 07 May 2007 13:20

Zeak have done some Melbourne trains for Locomotion..? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=29813
Maybe if you ask him you can just rent some of his images and shring then down to TTDP (or whatever) size...

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 07 May 2007 13:22

That wouldn't work. It really wouldn't. The quality would be lost.

EirikhO · Post by **EirikhO** » 07 May 2007 13:24

Well, I thougth it's legal to come up with ideas on this forum but... well...

.

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 07 May 2007 13:26

I didn't say that it was illegal to come up with an idea, I was just saying that trying to convert Loco graphics to TTD wouldn't work.

Comeng 523M · Post by **Comeng 523M** » 07 May 2007 14:05

Well if I can get any information on V/Line or VicRail Country trains I'll add them too, should fill up the gaps.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 07 May 2007 14:06

Illegal Alien once tried to render a 3D model of an ICE3, which he used to render LoMo-sprites, to TTD sprites. It wasn't really a succes IIRC. You'd still need to pixel-edit the sprites, and you'd probably better off pixelling from scratch.

Post by **PikkaBird** » 07 May 2007 16:19

Rendering sprites for TTD is perfectly feasible, but you have to start thinking about sprites right from the beginning, and create your models and textures with that in mind.

Comeng 523M · Post by **Comeng 523M** » 08 May 2007 04:16

Okay, I can make the sprites myself. But I'll need a coder, and instructions on how to create the sprites (eg. Programs used, File format, things like that.)

I'll probably put in VicRail and V/Line rolling stock to make up the years and the diesel/steam component. I'll think about my own trains too, and possibly Monorail / MagLev.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 08 May 2007 04:30

Programs used: Whatever you want.
File format: 8-bit PNG, palette as found on the TTDPatch wiki (PalettesAndCoordinates)

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 08 May 2007 06:27

You may find the following link useful for V/Line Locomotives. I'm not sure what your knowledge base is (mine is shocking for Victorian Stuff, I only know about Standard Gauge Victorian Stuff that has come over to NSW via QR National or Pacific National or one of the other operators).

Locopage

I hope you do include V'Line stock, specifically the V/locity. I quite like our Xplorer railcars, and the V/locity really looks like a step up from them (and rightly so, they are both Bombadier products).

The following may be of interest too:

http://www.vlinecars.com/

http://www.vicsig.net/index.php?page=pa ... llingstock

I'm not sure of your standing in the Australian Railway community (again, NSWian here), but you can get questions answered over at Railpage Australia

Comeng 523M · Post by **Comeng 523M** » 08 May 2007 06:47

My knowledge base for V/Line is pretty good for modern times, though I may struggle with the more "historical" locos. I am going to sign up to Railpage Australia shortly, and I have a "friend" over there who was banned recently from there...

Yes, he was asking for it!

If I was to include V/Line trains, I would definantly have A, B, L (Electric), N, P, and T loco's - plus the sprinters and VLocities.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 08 May 2007 06:55

pantagram wrote:My knowledge base for V/Line is pretty good for modern times, though I may struggle with the more "historical" locos. I am going to sign up to Railpage Australia shortly, and I have a "friend" over there who was banned recently from there...

Oh yes? Was he posting in the Victorian Section, or the TT section?

What was his username?

Comeng 523M · Post by **Comeng 523M** » 09 May 2007 12:51

He has multiple (being banned several times).

broken_arrow
ComengSparks
MrSpark
silvertachi

He generally posts in the Melbourne Suburban forum.

He's quite the post-whore...

What is your username?

Post by **WWTBAM** » 10 May 2007 05:20

Raichase's username on railpage is Raichase.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 10 May 2007 05:40

Why am I not surprised?

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