ECS vectors v1.1.2 (by George) 19/06/2011

[Smaug]

I voted for mauve and grey. Mauve comes the closest to the roof color of the real castle in my opinion (compare the two images) and gives a very nice contrast, so I would go for mauve. The grey color is somewhat light and gives not enough contrast I think. The brown color seems alright to me too. Great job! I'm in love with this castle.

[athanasios]

I agree. I voted for Mauve. Brown will fit with SAC's trees but not with original ones.

[George]

I agree. I voted for Mauve. Brown will fit with SAC's trees but not with original ones.

I can code it to use black/brown roof if SAC's trees are enabled and CC if disabled. Would it be good?

[Sonicelo]

OFFTOPIC:

I remeber having this castle, this image as a puzzle lol. 1k pieces.

ONTOPIC:

That would be awsome, and mauve is good yeah.

[athanasios]

It is a good idea.
EDIT / Of Topic:
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[George]

Test version for new features

[belugas]

Looks like i have plenty of work to do, if I ever want to play your sets in OTTD, George
In other words, it failed completely.
Thanks anyway

[athanasios]

Your interest fills us with joy and expectations!

[George]

Looks like i have plenty of work to do, if I ever want to play your sets in OTTD, George In other words, it failed completely. Thanks anyway

New callback and props work fine in TTDP. Thanks to Csaboka and Dalestan

[mcbane]

hmm got a lil prob with ECS when building a station near a "grossbaustoffhandlung"(dunno engl word for it) it produces stuff , even i dont bring cargo there and i cant bring the unknown cargo away.

[George]

hmm got a lil prob with ECS when building a station near a "grossbaustoffhandlung"(dunno engl word for it) it produces stuff , even i dont bring cargo there and i cant bring the unknown cargo away.

I cant reproduce the problem. Does it happen for all the "Large construction industry" on the map or only with specific one?

[mcbane]

if its the large building .yes i think i happens whenere there are other industries or towns in the range of the station

[belugas]

Looks like i have plenty of work to do, if I ever want to play your sets in OTTD, George In other words, it failed completely. Thanks anyway

New callback and props work fine in TTDP. Thanks to Csaboka and Dalestan

Ho I'm sure they do
Otherwise, you would have released that test version
Just that... I still have a long way to go
My implementation is still very buggy...

[George]

if its the large building .yes i think i happens whenere there are other industries or towns in the range of the station

Do you mean that you get this unexpected cargo on several stations? Send me a save-game and configs, please.

Looks like i have plenty of work to do, if I ever want to play your sets in OTTD, George In other words, it failed completely. Thanks anyway

New callback and props work fine in TTDP. Thanks to Csaboka and Dalestan

Ho I'm sure they do
Otherwise, you would have released that test version
Just that... I still have a long way to go
My implementation is still very buggy...

I can't run your version of OTTD. it reports "No available language packs (invalid versions?)". Where and what should I download?
BTW it could report some version info about required version

[PJF]

G'day George,

I love your work with the ECS industries. I just started using them, and they've really changed the game for me. Absolutely brilliant work; I've been playing with all of them enabled at once.

I did have one small surprise with the basic vector, playing in a temperate client using ttdpatch v2.6 alpha0 r1719. Within a few months of starting a new game, ALL the sandpits would increase their production, and then a few months later they'd all do it again, and then again, even though most were not being serviced. Is this intentional (sandpits are stocking big piles of sand ready for pick-up), or can I consider it unusual?

I believe I have a save-game that I can post that replicates the behaviour if you wish.

Is there any plan to combine the Arctic/Tropical/Temperate vectors into a single .grf files? I'm assuming they can't all be loaded at once in their current form.

Thanks again for a fantastic addition to the game,

Paul

[George]

I did have one small surprise with the basic vector, playing in a temperate client using ttdpatch v2.6 alpha0 r1719. Within a few months of starting a new game, ALL the sandpits would increase their production, and then a few months later they'd all do it again, and then again, even though most were not being serviced. Is this intentional (sandpits are stocking big piles of sand ready for pick-up), or can I consider it unusual?

A known bug, but was not fixed yet

I believe I have a save-game that I can post that replicates the behaviour if you wish.

That is not required

Is there any plan to combine the Arctic/Tropical/Temperate vectors into a single .grf files? I'm assuming they can't all be loaded at once in their current form.

Yes, you cant load them at the same time, but you can (for example) load ECS Basic vector in tropics. And how would you manage it in one file?

[PJF]

A known bug, but was not fixed yet

Oh good, I like known bugs much better than unknown ones; they're much easier to fix.

Yes, you cant load them at the same time, but you can (for example) load ECS Basic vector in tropics. And how would you manage it in one file?

I've not even thought of loading vectors for other climates before, I'll have to give that a try.

As for managing them all in one file, I'm unfortunately not well versed in the capabilities of GRF files, and what can and cannot be done with them. My inspiration for the question was noting that Pikka's Basic Industries was a single file that modified industries in all three regular climates, with climate-dependent industry changes (eg, power plants consume coal in temperate, fuel oil in tropical). That's very appealing from a usability standpoint.

Many thanks again for an awesome addition to the game!

Paul

[George]

As for managing them all in one file, I'm unfortunately not well versed in the capabilities of GRF files, and what can and cannot be done with them. My inspiration for the question was noting that Pikka's Basic Industries was a single file that modified industries in all three regular climates, with climate-dependent industry changes (eg, power plants consume coal in temperate, fuel oil in tropical). That's very appealing from a usability standpoint.

For my sets I try to allow every set in every climate. Of cause it brings some restrictions (for example some industries require deserts to be build and deserts are located in tropic only), but the most possibilities should work.

[PJF]

G'day again George,

I've been playing more with your fantastic ECS vectors, and thanks again for your very prompt responses so far. I currently have all of them loaded, using the tropical ones where possible, as I'm playing a tropical game. I've noticed an oddity with the copper ore mines; they appear to be accepting rubber! In particular, the land query tool indicates: "Cargo accepted: (4/8 Rubber)".

This is a bug or a feature? I can understand copper ore mines wanting machinery or petrol, but rubber seems a little odd.

The other oddity, which I'm *sure* is a bug, is that breweries are accepting cereals, fruit and... livestock. I don't know what sort of beer they're making there, but I'm not going to be drinking it. Again, the query tool displays this with the land area information: "Cargo accepted: Cereals, Fruit, Livestock".

I'm using ttdpatch 2.6 r1726. I'm happy to provide screenshots, saves, configuration information, and anything else upon request.

On a somewhat related note, I've been trying to add a little more information on the ECS to the ttdpatch wiki, such as the information on the Basic Vector. Unfortunately I'm at a loss as to how one adds the ECS navigation structure to the top of the page; any hints you may have here would be appreciated.

All the very best, and thanks again!

Paul

[George]

they appear to be accepting rubber! In particular, the land query tool indicates: "Cargo accepted: (4/8 Rubber)".
The other oddity, which I'm *sure* is a bug, is that breweries are accepting cereals, fruit and... livestock.

Does it happen in newly created games?

On a somewhat related note, I've been trying to add a little more information on the ECS to the ttdpatch wiki, such as the information on the Basic Vector. Unfortunately I'm at a loss as to how one adds the ECS navigation structure to the top of the page; any hints you may have here would be appreciated.

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