FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Development

[andythenorth]

2x4, 4x2 and some other tweaks

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[Ogre]

2x4, 4x2 and some other tweaks...

These layouts look very nice, especially the 2x5 ones. In my eyes, these larger industries better fit the size of the vehicles.

I don't know if this would be difficult, but I would suggest that the pile of sand should be recoloured to reflect the use of ore.

[andythenorth]

Working on something...

[Ogre]

A new mine? Tell us more...

[supermop]

Everything looks great!

[andythenorth]

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[STD]

It looks very nice . And are you planning to add mine to include in the FIRS?

[leifbk]

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Fertilizer (aka. FMSP) straight from the ground? With a nitrate mine along with a coal mine and a sulphur mine we can make gunpowder and blow the competition off the map! Phear my chemistry skillz

[Wahazar]

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Seems that the last cargo slot would be also used?

[sunshare]

I wish they had the option as Manpower industries, allowing the creation of industries but not automatically open and close

[Ogre]

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Fertilizer (aka. FMSP) straight from the ground? With a nitrate mine along with a coal mine and a sulphur mine we can make gunpowder and blow the competition off the map! Phear my chemistry skillz

Just get some aluminium, some chemicals (soap) and a bit of fuel from FIRS and napalm is at ready for the competition

Fertilizer digged from the ground? Reminds me of the guano mine which was in discussion some time ago. Andy, what do you have in mind with this nice looking mines? (patiently asked question )

[andythenorth]

Reminds me of the guano mine which was in discussion some time ago. Andy, what do you have in mind with this nice looking mines?

Nah, I never confirm anything until a release, and even then it might change later.

Right now, this is a nitrate mine, in 'tropic basic' economy. It produces farm supplies and chemicals. It started out as a guano mine, but has evolved. It hasn't been play tested, so who knows what will happen, but the sprites are nice eh?

@McZapkie no, last cargo slot is empty. No FIRS economy will provide more than 31 cargos (and that's more than enough)

@sunshare, sorry, I understand that you are not a native English speaker, but I can't understand your requests

[sunshare]

Reminds me of the guano mine which was in discussion some time ago. Andy, what do you have in mind with this nice looking mines?

Nah, I never confirm anything until a release, and even then it might change later.

Right now, this is a nitrate mine, in 'tropic basic' economy. It produces farm supplies and chemicals. It started out as a guano mine, but has evolved. It hasn't been play tested, so who knows what will happen, but the sprites are nice eh?

@McZapkie no, last cargo slot is empty. No FIRS economy will provide more than 31 cargos (and that's more than enough)

@sunshare, sorry, I understand that you are not a native English speaker, but I can't understand your requests

I am asking an option found new industries but they do not appear alone. How has the option Manpower industries made McZapkie.

I hope you understand. I'm using google translate for my Spanish to English

[Wahazar]

There is already option "Prevent ind. opening during gameplay" and "allow secondary ind. to close" in FIRS,
however I'm not sure how about primary industries.

[sunshare]

There is already option "Prevent ind. opening during gameplay" and "allow secondary ind. to close" in FIRS,
however I'm not sure how about primary industries.

Yes, that option already knew that I had, but if activated you can not manually create new industries.

[Alberth]

Yes, that option already knew that I had, but if activated you can not manually create new industries.

Huh?

FIRS is probably just imposing restrictions on where you can build, I don't think it would actually forbid manually building new industries. As for the primary industries, in the settings, you can define "no", "prospect" or "as other industries". Maybe that setting for primary industries is set to the wrong value?

Can you show an example? ("It does not work" is too generic to figure out what is wrong.)

[andythenorth]

I don't think it would actually forbid manually building new industries.

Nah it does. "Prevent industries from opening during gameplay" (bool). Was intended for scenarios, or playing competitive servers or GS etc. Never used it myself.

Could be changed from a bool to a set of options, e.g. 'player funding only' etc. Two problems with that
- I have no interest in doing that right now. I know it lies in some FIRS code that I didn't write and don't want to touch.
- I don't like adding newgrf features that conflict or conflate with what OpenTTD is doing. OpenTTD already has some options for restricting industry construction.

If anything, these options should be deleted from FIRS imho.

[Pyoro]

If anything, these options should be deleted from FIRS imho.

Aw, come on. Parameters can be turned off and on and it won't kill anybody, while the OpenTTD option is iirc save game restricted, aka inferior.

But I'd agree if somebody improved the OpenTTD setting. It technically make more sense in the game options than as a GRF parameter.

[Wahazar]

Nah it does. "Prevent industries from opening during gameplay" (bool). Was intended for scenarios, or playing competitive servers or GS etc. Never used it myself.

It should rather work simply as prob_in_game = 0 if option if turned on, instead of duplicating existing openttd option of raw_industry_construction.
Currently it is preventing building any industry via GS.

[Alberth]

Nah it does. "Prevent industries from opening during gameplay" (bool). Was intended for scenarios, or playing competitive servers or GS etc. Never used it myself.

It should rather work simply as prob_in_game = 0 if option if turned on, instead of duplicating existing openttd option of raw_industry_construction.
Currently it is preventing building any industry via GS.

It doesn't duplicate the raw_industry_construction option if I understand the explanation correctly. It completely blocks creation of new industries (ie ALL industries, not just the primary ones).

@sunshare: Disable that option, and you should be able to fund new industries.