Extended Cargo Scheme (ECS) discussion

[George]

This is nuts! All of the industries close down in 24 game months unless they get serviced, without any way to circumvent that, I built a scenario specially made for the ECS vectors before knowing this, and it made me mad! Is this some kind of cruel joke, George?!?
Give me freedom or give me death!

Please try if this version works correctly http://george.zernebok.net/temp/ecs%2031/

[GoldRush]

This is nuts! All of the industries close down in 24 game months unless they get serviced, without any way to circumvent that, I built a scenario specially made for the ECS vectors before knowing this, and it made me mad! Is this some kind of cruel joke, George?!?
Give me freedom or give me death!

Please try if this version works correctly http://george.zernebok.net/temp/ecs%2031/

Is there any new parameters in that version that disables industry shutdown and stockpiling entirely? Or makes them behave like the original industry set?

If not, then why did you point me to the latest version? I like the ECS vectors only for having more cargotypes, not the fundamental changes to the gameplay it brings.

[George]

This is nuts! All of the industries close down in 24 game months unless they get serviced, without any way to circumvent that, I built a scenario specially made for the ECS vectors before knowing this, and it made me mad! Is this some kind of cruel joke, George?!?
Give me freedom or give me death!

Please try if this version works correctly http://george.zernebok.net/temp/ecs%2031/

Is there any new parameters in that version that disables industry shutdown and stockpiling entirely? Or makes them behave like the original industry set?
If not, then why did you point me to the latest version? I like the ECS vectors only for having more cargotypes, not the fundamental changes to the gameplay it brings.

General behaviour parameter bit 1 disables stockpiles.
As for closure - beta 6 has special bit 5 (value 16) that completely removes closure and appearing of new industries (except exhausting of mines, you have other bit for endless mines). Try if its what you need.

[planetmaker]

As for closure - beta 6 has special bit 5 (value 16) that completely removes closure and appearing of new industries (except exhausting of mines, you have other bit for endless mines). Try if its what you need.

That's nice to read

An unrelated question: do you grant me permission to re-use your forest in the OpenGFX+ newgrf? It fits so very nicely into the landscape and I'd like to make it an option there. Could you pm me please the relevant sprites, if you agree?

[George]

As for closure - beta 6 has special bit 5 (value 16) that completely removes closure and appearing of new industries (except exhausting of mines, you have other bit for endless mines). Try if its what you need.

That's nice to read

Still did not do all the things I planned for beta 6 to go in public

An unrelated question: do you grant me permission to re-use your forest

Yes

in the OpenGFX+ newgrf? It fits so very nicely into the landscape and I'd like to make it an option there. Could you pm me please the relevant sprites, if you agree?

This string "// = Forest (ID 12, part 10, 80) =" is the first and this "// = Sawmill (ID 13, parts A5-A6, 83-87) =" is the last. All the sprites between are the forest sprites.
Or have I misunderstood you?

[planetmaker]

An unrelated question: do you grant me permission to re-use your forest

Yes

in the OpenGFX+ newgrf? It fits so very nicely into the landscape and I'd like to make it an option there. Could you pm me please the relevant sprites, if you agree?

This string "// = Forest (ID 12, part 10, 80) =" is the first and this "// = Sawmill (ID 13, parts A5-A6, 83-87) =" is the last. All the sprites between are the forest sprites.
Or have I misunderstood you?

Nope that's it pretty much I'm shocked with awe to see the forest take a whopping 4000 sprites nearly... :-O - something I didn't quite expect.
Do you happen to have the real sprites (pcx) for the forest at hand? My grfcodec fails to write proper pcx files here.

[George]

An unrelated question: do you grant me permission to re-use your forest

Yes

in the OpenGFX+ newgrf? It fits so very nicely into the landscape and I'd like to make it an option there. Could you pm me please the relevant sprites, if you agree?

This string "// = Forest (ID 12, part 10, 80) =" is the first and this "// = Sawmill (ID 13, parts A5-A6, 83-87) =" is the last. All the sprites between are the forest sprites.
Or have I misunderstood you?

Nope that's it pretty much I'm shocked with awe to see the forest take a whopping 4000 sprites nearly... :-O - something I didn't quite expect.
Do you happen to have the real sprites (pcx) for the forest at hand? My grfcodec fails to write proper pcx files here.

http://george.zernebok.net/temp/ForestersHouse.psd
And how many sprites did you expect?

[City Builder]

Any rough estimate when beta 6 is going to make it into the online game, it seems that the people that play on our servers love ECS but hate that the industry closes down after only 12 to 15 months. I have to admit, I'm right along with them.

[George]

Any rough estimate when beta 6 is going to make it into the online game, it seems that the people that play on our servers love ECS but hate that the industry closes down after only 12 to 15 months. I have to admit, I'm right along with them.

Unfortunately it may take 2-3 months
Do you suggest to upload pre- versions (http://george.zernebok.net/temp/ecs%2031/) that fixs that problem to bananas?

[BarthVader]

I'd want to contribute as a translator (to Polish). What can I do?

[George]

I'd want to contribute as a translator (to Polish). What can I do?

http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php ... ranslation

[michael blunck]

Announcement.

As of dec 31th, 2010, some of ECS cargo classes have been modified:

CERE: 0010 bulk -> 0210 bulk, covered/sheltered
FERT: 0070 bulk, piece goods, liquid -> 0030 bulk, piece goods
OLSD: 0010 bulk -> 0210 bulk, covered/sheltered
POTA: 0010 bulk -> 0210 bulk, covered/sheltered
SULP: 0010 bulk -> 0210 bulk, covered/sheltered
WOOL: 0020 piece goods -> 0220 piece goods goods, covered/sheltered

See http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=CargoTypes

This may be of importance to vehicle set developers using cargo classes with their sets.

regards
Michael