Minutes for the FRD special meeting of February 05, 2005.

- People present (in alphabetical order):
	* ChrisCF
	* eis_os
	* Jpl
	* jfs
	* GruntAFK
	* Hellfire
	* Hyronymus (Chairman)
	* Hellfire (Late)
	* MealDaphne
	* Mek
	* ori
	* orudge (Late)
	* pjaytycy (Late)
	* prencher
	* Steve
	* weni
	* Zuu (Minutes maker, and the man who connected/disconnected most times. :( )
	
- Agenda (of the meeting itself, not the planned agenda)

	http://users.tt-forums.net/hyronymus/Agenda.htm

- FRDF discussions:
	1. Scenarios:
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		* Map = land + towns + industries
		* Scenario = script + settings + reference to map
		* Campaign = script + references to scenario's

		Details about how to implement Scenarios and Campagins where discussed, during the meeting, but the discussion was terminated, beacuse the DD does not need to know how to implement it.


	2. Weather:
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		* Weather = droped
		* Spatial climate variations = keept
		

	3. Dikes and water flow:
			
		* There where no clear decision.
		* FIXME: was there any decision?
	
	
	4. Map slopes and 5. Steepness of slopes (discussed togeather)
	
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		Agreed on:
		* no train ever gets stuck on steep track
		* slopes in TE will be steeper than normal because of the visual part
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	6. Zones:

		* Drop
		* Some suggested that zones still could be used internally by towns, so that they don't place somky factories next to houses.
- AOB


	7. Player owned industries

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		* Vote:
			1. Players can own industries
			2. Players can buy/sell goods
			3. Industries make contracts between each other, and players must follow those
			4. Industries have favoured destinations for their goods
			5. Players can fund new industries
			6. Players can fund already existing industries
			7. Industries will pay for their goods transported to any destination
			8. Secondary industries have a max. output per time unit

			multiple options are allowed, but 3 and 4 are exclusive

		* Results:
			1. Drop
			2. Drop
			3. Drop
			4. Use
			5. Only if players can ask local authorities to fund a new industry
			6. Drop
			7. Accepted as a difficult option
			8. Accepted as a difficult option
 
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	8. Depots:
	
		* Decision was already made at the forums.
	
	
	9. Who builds airports?:

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		Vote:
			A Local authorities initiate, construct and own airports (problem: how to deal with cities that don't initiate at all?)

			B Local authorities initiate and construct airports, offering them to players (problem: what if the price is too high and how to deal with cities that don't initiate at all?)

			C Local authorities construct and own airports, players initiate the construction (problem: you need a very good rating)

			D Local authorities initiate and own airports, players construct them (problem: what if no player can afford to construct it?)

			E Local authorities initiate airports, players construct them and own them (problem: unrealistic as no transport company owns airports in real life)

			F Local authorities construct airports, players initiate and own them (problem: unrealistic as no transport company owns airports in real life)

			G Local authorities own airports, players initiate and construct them (problem: you need a large bag of money)

			H Players initiate, construct and own airports (problem: each player would build his own airport; if this is prohibited (1 airport allowed per town) you are forced to share your airport with competitors or beg a competitor to use his airport)  

		* Decision:
			* A mix of A and C for cities, and C for elsewhere.
			
		* Hellfire votes H


	10.  How to decide how many wagons you can have in a train:

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		* Nothing were really decided, but there where quite some discussion about it.  

		* Main voices:
			- Have a clear maximum, to make the game clear to the players.
			- Don't have a maximum, it will trade off to much.
			- Use RRT style charts, that displays: max speed at various loads and slopes.


	11. Load/unload orders:
	
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		PjayTycy: ..., but I don't think it would be good to go into too much detail here now. We agree on the use of it, the details should not be discussed at this meeting now.


	
	12. Train propulsion:

		*Trains will not carry fuel. 

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	13. Pollution:

		* Point wasn't discussed at the meeting. (Noone did ever mention the point!)
		* A conclusion have already been made on the forums, to drop it.


	14. Game controls

		* Wasn't either brought up at the meeting. 


- Off topic decisions: (Was discussed between some meeting points, ie not after 14, but somewhere before.)

	- Smother meetings:
	
		* New symbols:
			-> = "I have a comment" (Wait until chairman gives you open air, and THEN say what you want to say.)
			<- = "I take back my comment"
			! = "if I might interrupt"
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		* Votings:
			* Every vote is opened with the statement we are voting for or against.
			* Example: 
				"Proposal: make the reliability system a difficulty option."

- Setting new date + agenda, picking minutes man

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	* Next meeting: Sunday, 2005-02-13 @ 1930 UTC
	* Minute man: ?